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2023-01-12[14:43:01] <ekaitz> hi! did I understand correctly that if I install ntfs-3g system-wide (in the config.scm) my system will be able to mount NTFS directly?
2023-01-12[14:46:42] <ekaitz> running ntfs-3g by hand works
2023-01-12[15:07:40] <apteryx> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 73 Dec 31 1969 /run/current-system/profile/bin/ntfs-3g -> /gnu/store/9wwqsp1a9xx3qjnhbnnzadrcjcp07a11-ntfs-3g-2022.10.3/bin/ntfs-3g
2023-01-12[15:09:50] <apteryx> mount will look for mount.ntfs-3g on path, I think
2022-09-23[19:01:29] <sughosha> Hi there, I am not able to mount an internal hard drive partition (/dev/sda5), which is NTFS. But I can mount an external USB hard disk, which is NTFS too, without any problem. Could someone help me with this? I can mount the internal partition as root. Only udisks is not able to mount it. Thanks in advance.
2022-09-10[16:51:13] <boji2> Is vfat-formated partiton fat32 or ntfs? In type selection cant find vfat option :)
2022-07-01[17:27:22] <nckx> So when you switched to Ubuntu it was running from a loop file on NTFS? That's one long-term sacrifice for a one-time installation.
2022-07-01[17:29:36] <GNUtoo> And there were limitations related to NTFS as well: Linux could write to NTFS files but cound't change the file size, so that worked well for loops, but it also meant that you cound't increase the file size from GNU/Linux that easily
2022-07-01[17:29:46] <GNUtoo> (it relied on the ntfs kernel driver for that)
2022-07-01[17:30:43] <GNUtoo> + using NTFS in general is risky since last time I checked we didn't have free software fsck software that is so experimental that it's not shipped by distributions
2022-07-01[17:37:36] <GNUtoo> oh ok, so I guess we should stick with ntfs-3g for the utilities
2022-07-01[17:42:13] <GNUtoo> Sometimes people that want to install GNU/Linux also want to keep a dual boot just in case, or not to have to reformat, but the issue is that ntfs is risky (we don't have good free software fsck)
2022-06-29[12:54:25] <johnjaye> no ntfs so couldn't do that. not sure if i could have ssh'd to this box to do it either.
2022-06-15[16:27:23] <jorge[m]> Hello, the file system for the installation of Guix system is Fat or NTFS?
2022-06-15[16:28:06] <nckx> jorge[m]: Guix doesn't use NTFS anywhere.
2022-05-26[22:03:53] <attila_lendvai> is this only me? i'm seeing: ntfs-3g[26473]: Could not load plugin /gnu/store/r1avamwgm5v39f4n717ip4cdn3rfvfjr-ntfs-3g-2021.8.22/lib/ntfs-3g/ntfs-plugin-8000001b.so (the file is not there). my toplevel issue is that ntfs partition is mounted read-only.
2022-05-26[22:21:03] <nckx> sneek: later ask attilla_lendvai: I don't use ntfs… Will it ‘work’ if I install it as a regular user?
2022-05-26[22:21:34] <nckx> sneek: later ask attilla_lendvai: Also, isn't ntfs-3g, if not deprecated, the old way of doing things at this point?
2022-05-26[22:50:22] <nckx> sneek: later tell attila_lendvai: Of course I can't reproduce it… That's with guix install ntfs-3g and a 1-GiB mkfs.ntfs'd image in /tmp.
2022-05-26[23:25:24] <attila_lendvai> nckx, AFAI followed the story, ntfs-3g is the *new* thing. and again, it seems to happen based on fs content (see debian bug)... hence i have abandoned the pursuit of a fix.
2022-05-26[23:25:26] <sneek> attila_lendvai, nckx says: I don't use ntfs… Will it ‘work’ if I install it as a regular user?
2022-05-26[23:25:26] <sneek> attila_lendvai, nckx says: Also, isn't ntfs-3g, if not deprecated, the old way of doing things at this point?
2022-05-26[23:25:26] <sneek> attila_lendvai, nckx says: Of course I can't reproduce it… That's with guix install ntfs-3g and a 1-GiB mkfs.ntfs'd image in /tmp.
2022-05-26[23:25:58] <nckx> attila_lendvai: The ntfs3 ‘normal’ kernel driver is the new thing. The user-space (FUSE) ntfs-3g is the old thing.
2022-05-26[23:26:37] <attila_lendvai> nckx, then i'm behind. gnome's files app in guix HEAD mounts stuff using ntfs-3g.
2022-05-26[23:27:23] <lilyp> yeah, ntfs-3g has worked for ages
2022-05-26[23:27:33] <nckx> I'm sure ntfs-3g will work for years to come (and might support a bit more—for now). I didn't know you were going through GNOME.
2022-02-23[11:15:29] <jpoiret> i think the issue starts when you have case-insensitive filesystems (looking at you ntfs)
2022-02-13[02:59:23] <lilyp> Kolev: you need ntfs-3g in your OS config packages as far as I'm aware
2021-11-26[03:58:18] <apteryx> you probably just need the mount helper that knows the file system you want (ntfs-3g for example)
2021-10-31[23:38:58] <drakonis> native ntfs is finally here
2021-10-31[23:40:16] <nckx> drakonis: ntfs3? NTFS was always native, just literally nobody used it. Zero peeps. (I know you know, I just find it fun to point out for some reason.)
2021-10-31[23:40:35] <drakonis> the ntfs implementation already in the kernel is hot garbage though
2021-10-31[23:40:47] <nckx> Do they still make you mount with -t ntfs3 instead of -t ntfs?
2021-10-31[23:42:20] <singpolyma> s/ETFs/NTFS
2021-10-31[23:42:40] <drakonis> ntfs-3g is the one you mean
2021-10-31[23:44:43] <nckx> singpolyma: Good question. I never configured ntfs-3g (when I still had it installed) to work without explicit ‘mount.ntfs-3g’; it didn't occur to me that this was supported on Guix System.
2021-10-08[15:09:39] <teddd> hi, does anyone know how to properly pass otions to a ntfs filesystem in the operating system definition ?
2021-10-08[15:12:31] <teddd> (type "ntfs")
2021-10-08[15:36:59] <roptat> teddd, your message got kinda lost in the matrix storm, and I don't know how to help you, sorry. it looks like you're doing things correctly, although I'm not sure umask makes any sense for an ntfs file-system?
2021-10-06[15:51:03] <lilyp> oh right, if it's an ntfs volume, you need ntfs in your OS packages
2021-09-10[03:17:06] <lfam> Hey nckx, did the new ntfs-3g work for you?
2021-09-09[21:57:16] * nckx eyes $partners NTFS thumbdrives with new-kindled fear; upgrades.
2021-09-09[22:23:10] <lfam> nckx: Can you check that you can still access those NTFS filesystems with the update
2021-09-05[03:31:01] <nckx> This is like SELinux suddenly locking the system because you changed a file on your NTFS partition.
2021-07-20[10:39:43] <MysteriousSilver> hello, trying to mount a NTFS file system, should I specify type as ntfs-3g or just ntfs? (in system.scm)
2021-07-17[19:04:17] <Guest39> Hola,si tengo rufus que debo usar para guix fat32 o ntfs ? gracias
2021-06-27[13:58:41] <MysteriousSilver> how should i mount a ntfs filesystem with write permission?
2021-06-27[13:58:41] <MysteriousSilver> from what i know one should install a package called ntfs-3g
2021-06-27[13:58:41] <MysteriousSilver> should i mention ntfs-3g instead of ntfs in configuration?
2021-06-27[15:41:49] <leoprikler> MysteriousSilver: either use ntfs-3g directly or add it to your OS packages field
2021-06-21[00:16:17] <rndd> i've installed ntfs-3g and fuse, but cannot mount ntfs partition in read write mode?
2021-06-21[00:40:38] <nckx> Ideas, since you asked: you're not actually using ntfs-3g but the suckful in-kernel driver; the file system needs checking (which can't be fixed with Free software) or is hibernated (same).
2021-06-21[00:48:44] <rndd> nckx: so, i cannot use ntfs with guix (if use only libre software?)
2021-06-21[00:50:04] <nckx> Why use NTFS at all?
2021-06-21[00:54:05] <nckx> Well, Linux support for NTFS is what it is (poor). But I can't help you if you don't share more info.
2021-06-21[01:07:55] <rndd> nckx: i installed fuse, ntfs-3g and "mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /directory
2021-06-21[01:08:59] <nckx> So you're not using ntfs-3g.
2021-06-21[01:09:17] <nckx> Your using ntfs, the Linux driver.
2021-06-21[01:09:31] <nckx> Mount it with ntfs-3g instead.
2021-06-21[01:10:58] <nckx> The Linux ntfs driver has experimental write support but it's a very bad idea to enable it, so we don't, so file systems mounted with ‘mount -t ntfs’ will never support writing.
2021-06-21[01:11:16] <rndd> unknown filesystem ntfs-3g
2021-06-21[01:12:02] <nckx> No, mount it using ntfs-3g.
2021-06-21[01:12:25] <nckx> I don't know if you need root, but probably, so sudo ntfs-3g.
2021-06-21[01:21:35] <nckx> ntfs-3g is known to be slow but it shouldn't be any slower on Guix than on Ubuntu. It's the same software.
2021-06-21[01:23:46] <nckx> To further confuse^Wexcite you: a new in-kernel NTFS driver has been submitted to Linux, completely unrelated to the old one, that should be of much better quality than the crap read-only one you accidentally used. But it hasn't been accepted yet.
2021-06-21[02:49:15] <drakonis> ntfs is getting a native driver soon
2021-06-21[02:50:27] <nckx> ntfs3, the old one is ntfs (CONFIG_NTFS) with optional write support.
2021-06-21[02:51:22] <nckx> I do hope CONFIG_NTFS is removed and -t ntfs is reused. Having to type -t ntfs3 is stupid.
2021-06-02[00:16:34] <apteryx> ntfs fared better
2021-02-19[21:09:34] <lfam> It offers ext4, btrfs, fat16, fat32, jfs, ntfs, and linux-swap
2020-12-11[06:14:15] <charles`> I'm trying to make iso from pre-inst-env but it is telling me that the dvr failed for ntfs-3g.
2020-12-11[06:27:57] <lfam> No, the package defintion of ntfs-3g already includes fuse
2020-12-11[06:38:20] <lfam> The ntfs-3g package already depends on fuse
2020-12-11[06:38:40] <mroh> looks like, you are trying to build your system with fuse 3.9.2. Prepare to break things for upgrading fuse from 2 to 3, like the ntfs pkg...
2020-12-11[06:41:26] <lfam> It's likely that ntfs-3g does not support fuse > 2
2020-12-11[06:44:35] <lfam> You need to change the ntfs-3g package to depend on 'fuse-legacy' instead of 'fuse'
2020-12-11[07:21:31] <charles`> It passed the ntfs-3g step! thank you so much
2020-11-10[10:26:53] <mothacehe> tried dos and gpt tables with fat/ntfs/ext partitions without success
2020-10-10[08:18:45] <Brendan[m]1> can i mount a ntfs usb writable in the installer?
2020-10-10[08:21:03] <Brendan[m]1> ^ ntfs. im finding an ext4 one instead
2020-09-24[15:56:37] <apteryx> I think it'd be nice to have our default templates know how to mount NTFS and NFS file systems as simple users if ntfs-3g and nfs-utils don't add much to the closure size.
2020-09-24[22:08:40] <apteryx> I'm experimenting with having mount.nfs and mount.ntfs-3g setuid-root out-of-the-box for desktop users, any idea how we could make this work: https://paste.debian.net/1164574/
2020-09-10[23:17:40] <FennecCode> Hey, so I'm having some trouble mounting NTFS drives on Guix. Can anyone help me figure out why?
2020-09-10[23:18:49] <FennecCode> It always mounts as read only, and I can't seem to mount it as write no matter how I try to remount it. I have NTFS-3G installed as a user
2020-09-10[23:24:57] <FennecCode> I can mount in other distros, but it's a pain. There are also scenarios where I need a particular NTFS drive mounted on Guix
2020-07-26[00:28:11] <nckx> Guix already manages to provide a pretty ‘virtualised’/isolated environment without the vfs/virtualisation overhead. That's pretty impressive IMO. Asking it to do ever more… well, at some point you have to say that A isn't B and that's OK. FAT32/NTFS aren't useful file systems for GNU. Oh well.
2020-07-26[09:14:49] <kekoso> Hi, the same problem persists: on latest 9660 during installation, when I get to the partitioning of the disk, for example, when I try to edit any disk, an unhandle ntfs error pops up. On the stable version, it crashes, on the new version, an error pops up. Maybe I can't edit disks in guix or am I doing something wrong? two disks ssd samsung, hdd w
2020-07-14[13:19:02] <ss2``> how do I get udisks to mount ntfs partitions? I have install ntfs-3g, but udisksctl and thunar fail to mount it.
2020-07-14[13:19:18] <ss2``> Mounting directly with ntfs-3g works though.
2020-06-17[14:52:37] <bricewge1> I'm trying to mount a NFS share from within the initrd REPL, do I need to build a ntfs-utils static package first or can I use the current non static one?
2020-05-24[15:53:08] <hulten> Hello! I am confused about mounting USB flash drives' filesystems on Guix System; confusion started after I decided that NTFS would be the best filesystem (for reliability and cross-platform).
2020-05-24[15:55:27] <hulten> Other tools that seem interesting are 'ntfs-3g' and 'udisksctl'.
2020-05-24[15:55:39] <hulten> The former is great as it can mount NTFS writable.
2020-05-24[16:29:19] <bricewge> krusnus: I played a bit with ntfs-3g, and it seems that I get a read-only filesystem when using 'mount' instead of 'mount.ntfs-3g'
2020-05-24[16:40:55] <bricewge> hulten: I managed to get a NTFS partition to be {,auto}mounted by installing ntfs-3g in the system profile instead of just in an environment or a user profile
2020-05-24[18:38:39] <hulten> bricewge: How did you mount the NTFS filesystem?
2020-05-24[18:38:56] <hulten> I have it now in my system profile ($ which ntfs-3g
2020-05-24[18:41:02] <hulten> /run/current-system/profile/bin/ntfs-3g
2020-05-24[18:41:52] <hulten> In any case, $ ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt