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2025-09-26[10:29:49] <apteryx> is creating an NTFS file system always so slow with the ntfs-3g helper?
2025-08-14[05:32:18] <apteryx> is someone regularly using NTFS-formatted USB keys with GNOME? It seems adding ntfs-3g to the system 'packages' field may not be enough to please udisks/Nautilus anymore.
2025-07-02[08:18:58] <tusharhero> so I have been trying to get my ntfs dynamic mapped devices to mount as rw: https://bpa.st/EJDA, but to avail. The generated fstab looks like this: https://bpa.st/7LAQ, and the current mtab looks like this: https://bpa.st/M2YQ. Removing the "rw" options leaves "default" as the fstab option, but it still doesn't mount as rw. I can umount it and remount it manuall to make it rw though.
2025-06-30[09:32:01] <tusharhero> I have a dynamic ntfs drive, ldmtools creates mapper devices for it. I have been trying to get it to mount on boot but it keeps mounting as read only. But if I mount it manually (using the mount command) it mounts with write permissions.
2025-02-17[20:25:40] <podiki> (though does check explicitly for vfat and ntfs support in the source)
2024-11-27[23:26:45] <divya> Has there been any progress in guix being able to mount NTFS file-systems on boot?
2024-11-27[23:26:53] <divya> I have to manually do that everytime, if there's been no progress maybe one can use a simple-service to employ the mount.ntfs-3g command?
2024-10-22[17:48:58] <divya> Does anyone know how to mount NTFS file systems in guix? The typical setup in `operating-system' doesn't actually work. So I have to do it separately by typing out the command each time with sudo. Can I make a system service for it that runs every time I login?
2024-10-22[18:02:02] <divya> ekaitz: That just adds the ntfs-3g package, I already have that. I want to know how to have my configuration mount ntfs disks
2024-10-22[18:21:56] <divya> Not sure it's been fixed. I hate being on ntfs, but I have sensitive data on it and can't change clean it to change filesystems.
2024-09-19[21:14:10] <lispmacs[work]> hi, what do I need to install or configure so that Gnome Shell (Nautilus) can mount NTFS drives?
2024-09-14[10:25:34] <dxk> Hi, I recently ntfs formatted a previously fat formatted usb stick I use to transfer files to/from windows. I installed ntfs-3g, and can mount/umount the stick with sudo, so I know the basic mounting process works fine.
2024-09-14[10:26:49] <dxk> In the file system configuration I have /mnt/8g defined with options "noauto,defaults,user". In the system config I append (setuid-program (program (file-append ntfs-3g "/sbin/mount.ntfs-3g"))) to %setuid-programs. Where should I look next for getting this working again?
2024-09-14[10:29:44] <Rutherther> with the current config with setuid programs it still doesn't work? what does "which mount.ntfs-3g" say?
2024-09-14[10:34:12] <dxk> ~ $ which mount.ntfs-3g says /run/privileged/bin/mount.ntfs-3g
2024-09-14[12:52:34] <nckx> dxk: You could try using the in-kernel ntfs3 driver? AFAIK ntfs-3g in Guix doesn't support being setuid at all, claiming that it's insecure.
2024-09-14[15:48:59] <nckx> ACTION reconfigures with an NTFS partition.
2024-09-14[15:59:08] <dxk> nckx: mount /mnt/8g give Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE library. Either mount the volume as root, or rebuild NTFS-3G with integrated FUSE support and make it setuid root. Please see more information at https://github.com/tuxera/ntfs-3g/wiki/NTFS-3G-FAQ
2024-09-14[15:59:31] <nckx> Switch the type from ntfs-3g and ntfs3 and you should be good to go.
2024-09-14[16:02:31] <nckx> Typo: Switch the type from ntfs-3g and ntfs3 ��� Switch the type from ntfs-3g to ntfs3
2024-09-14[16:11:17] <nckx> dxk: \o/ I tried removing mount.ntfs-3g from privileged-programs (it still needs to be in the list of system packages due to https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/gnu/packages/linux.scm#n2243) and replacing ���user��� with the (special FUSE snowflake?) ���users��� option, but no dice. I think you're limited to ntfs3 if you want this, for now.
2024-09-14[16:11:42] <nckx> People on the Internet are adamant that ntfs3 is less stable than ntfs-3g.
2024-09-14[16:11:48] <nckx> People on the Internet are adamant that ntfs3 is more stable than ntfs-3g.
2024-09-14[16:52:40] <dxk2> nckx: In summary, To just read/write to an ntfs formatted usb stick as an unprivileged user, include that user in wheel and define the stick as: (file-system (mount-point "/mnt/8g") (device (file-system-label "DT")) (type "ntfs3") (mount? #f) (create-mount-point? #t) (options "noauto,defaults,user"))
2024-08-21[00:59:06] <robin> winscp is fine i guess, short of attaching an ntfs disk image
2024-08-02[14:18:50] <f1refly> basically fat32 but I need bigger files and ntfs is always broken in mysterious ways when accessed from linux
2024-07-22[17:28:42] <bdju> what's needed to mount an NTFS drive with read/write instead of read-only? I keep getting results for fuse and ntfs-3g but I thought there was proper kernel support now.
2024-07-22[18:03:20] <bdju> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NTFS#Explicit_file_system_type_required_to_mount THIS was my problem, you need -t ntfs3 not -t ntfs. insanity.
2024-01-02[22:58:08] <avv> they're also NTFS partitions if that matters
2024-01-02[23:00:18] <avv> I use the ntfs-3g package and have it in my packages list
2023-07-29[02:51:12] <zacchae[m]> Is there a way to create an ntfs fs from guix?
2023-07-29[02:51:29] <zacchae[m]> I tried installing ntfs-3g, but it complains that it can't find mkfs.ntfs
2023-07-29[02:52:06] <zacchae[m]> or even resize an ntfs fs
2023-07-29[02:52:57] <nckx> ntfs.mkfs exists. Who is complaining?
2023-07-29[02:58:14] <zacchae[m]> That's why it couldn't find mkfs.ntfs
2023-06-21[15:49:47] <sughosha> Hi all! I am having some problems with mounting filesystems from system configuration. I have NTFS partitions but they mount read-only. Another problem is that on boot the filesystems get mounted but if I try remounting then the UUID in the fstab has one zero escaped. Here is how I configured: https://paste.debian.net/1283720/
2023-06-21[16:06:53] <ChocolettePalett> sughosha: I have once heard that there were two implementations of ntfs driver, the in-kernel one could only read data, and there was a buggy one which could read and write stuff
2023-06-21[16:13:42] <degauss> sughosha, I had some issues with NTFS (I got the "Unrecognized mount option windows_names") which I avoided by using the `ntfs-3g` package in operating-system/packages. See also <https://issues.guix.gnu.org/56383>.
2023-06-21[16:15:54] <sughosha> degauss: I already have "ntfs-3g" package in my system configuration file.
2023-06-21[16:24:54] <nckx> Definitely a bug in Guix, assuming that's a valid NTFS UUID.
2023-06-21[16:25:03] <nckx> ((@@ (gnu system uuid) ntfs-uuid->string) (string->ntfs-uuid "5234ED0D34ECF53F")) ��� "5234EDD34ECF53F"
2023-06-21[16:26:30] <nckx> I don't see how this would explain the ro/rw problem, but it sure implies that our NTFS mounting code is not��� exceedingly tested. ( ���� ���� ����)
2023-06-21[16:36:08] <bjc> that's the entire string for the call to ���format��� in ���ntfs-uuid->string���
2023-06-21[16:47:22] <nckx> Sounds plausible. (I haven't mounted an NTFS this decade or probably the last.)
2023-01-12[14:43:01] <ekaitz> hi! did I understand correctly that if I install ntfs-3g system-wide (in the config.scm) my system will be able to mount NTFS directly?
2023-01-12[14:46:42] <ekaitz> running ntfs-3g by hand works
2023-01-12[15:07:40] <apteryx> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 73 Dec 31 1969 /run/current-system/profile/bin/ntfs-3g -> /gnu/store/9wwqsp1a9xx3qjnhbnnzadrcjcp07a11-ntfs-3g-2022.10.3/bin/ntfs-3g
2023-01-12[15:09:50] <apteryx> mount will look for mount.ntfs-3g on path, I think
2022-09-23[19:01:29] <sughosha> Hi there, I am not able to mount an internal hard drive partition (/dev/sda5), which is NTFS. But I can mount an external USB hard disk, which is NTFS too, without any problem. Could someone help me with this? I can mount the internal partition as root. Only udisks is not able to mount it. Thanks in advance.
2022-09-10[16:51:13] <boji2> Is vfat-formated partiton fat32 or ntfs? In type selection cant find vfat option :)
2022-07-01[17:27:22] <nckx> So when you switched to Ubuntu it was running from a loop file on NTFS? That's one long-term sacrifice for a one-time installation.
2022-07-01[17:29:36] <GNUtoo> And there were limitations related to NTFS as well: Linux could write to NTFS files but cound't change the file size, so that worked well for loops, but it also meant that you cound't increase the file size from GNU/Linux that easily
2022-07-01[17:29:46] <GNUtoo> (it relied on the ntfs kernel driver for that)
2022-07-01[17:30:43] <GNUtoo> + using NTFS in general is risky since last time I checked we didn't have free software fsck software that is so experimental that it's not shipped by distributions
2022-07-01[17:37:36] <GNUtoo> oh ok, so I guess we should stick with ntfs-3g for the utilities
2022-07-01[17:42:13] <GNUtoo> Sometimes people that want to install GNU/Linux also want to keep a dual boot just in case, or not to have to reformat, but the issue is that ntfs is risky (we don't have good free software fsck)
2022-06-29[12:54:25] <johnjaye> no ntfs so couldn't do that. not sure if i could have ssh'd to this box to do it either.
2022-06-15[16:27:23] <jorge[m]> Hello, the file system for the installation of Guix system is Fat or NTFS?
2022-06-15[16:28:06] <nckx> jorge[m]: Guix doesn't use NTFS anywhere.
2022-05-26[22:03:53] <attila_lendvai> is this only me? i'm seeing: ntfs-3g[26473]: Could not load plugin /gnu/store/r1avamwgm5v39f4n717ip4cdn3rfvfjr-ntfs-3g-2021.8.22/lib/ntfs-3g/ntfs-plugin-8000001b.so (the file is not there). my toplevel issue is that ntfs partition is mounted read-only.
2022-05-26[22:21:03] <nckx> sneek: later ask attilla_lendvai: I don't use ntfs��� Will it ���work��� if I install it as a regular user?
2022-05-26[22:21:34] <nckx> sneek: later ask attilla_lendvai: Also, isn't ntfs-3g, if not deprecated, the old way of doing things at this point?
2022-05-26[22:50:22] <nckx> sneek: later tell attila_lendvai: Of course I can't reproduce it��� That's with guix install ntfs-3g and a 1-GiB mkfs.ntfs'd image in /tmp.
2022-05-26[23:25:24] <attila_lendvai> nckx, AFAI followed the story, ntfs-3g is the *new* thing. and again, it seems to happen based on fs content (see debian bug)... hence i have abandoned the pursuit of a fix.
2022-05-26[23:25:26] <sneek> attila_lendvai, nckx says: I don't use ntfs��� Will it ���work��� if I install it as a regular user?
2022-05-26[23:25:26] <sneek> attila_lendvai, nckx says: Also, isn't ntfs-3g, if not deprecated, the old way of doing things at this point?
2022-05-26[23:25:26] <sneek> attila_lendvai, nckx says: Of course I can't reproduce it��� That's with guix install ntfs-3g and a 1-GiB mkfs.ntfs'd image in /tmp.
2022-05-26[23:25:58] <nckx> attila_lendvai: The ntfs3 ���normal��� kernel driver is the new thing. The user-space (FUSE) ntfs-3g is the old thing.
2022-05-26[23:26:37] <attila_lendvai> nckx, then i'm behind. gnome's files app in guix HEAD mounts stuff using ntfs-3g.
2022-05-26[23:27:23] <lilyp> yeah, ntfs-3g has worked for ages
2022-05-26[23:27:33] <nckx> I'm sure ntfs-3g will work for years to come (and might support a bit more���for now). I didn't know you were going through GNOME.
2022-02-23[11:15:29] <jpoiret> i think the issue starts when you have case-insensitive filesystems (looking at you ntfs)
2022-02-13[02:59:23] <lilyp> Kolev: you need ntfs-3g in your OS config packages as far as I'm aware
2021-11-26[03:58:18] <apteryx> you probably just need the mount helper that knows the file system you want (ntfs-3g for example)
2021-10-31[23:38:58] <drakonis> native ntfs is finally here
2021-10-31[23:40:16] <nckx> drakonis: ntfs3? NTFS was always native, just literally nobody used it. Zero peeps. (I know you know, I just find it fun to point out for some reason.)
2021-10-31[23:40:35] <drakonis> the ntfs implementation already in the kernel is hot garbage though
2021-10-31[23:40:47] <nckx> Do they still make you mount with -t ntfs3 instead of -t ntfs?
2021-10-31[23:42:20] <singpolyma> s/ETFs/NTFS
2021-10-31[23:42:40] <drakonis> ntfs-3g is the one you mean
2021-10-31[23:44:43] <nckx> singpolyma: Good question. I never configured ntfs-3g (when I still had it installed) to work without explicit ���mount.ntfs-3g���; it didn't occur to me that this was supported on Guix System.
2021-10-08[15:09:39] <teddd> hi, does anyone know how to properly pass otions to a ntfs filesystem in the operating system definition ?
2021-10-08[15:12:31] <teddd> (type "ntfs")
2021-10-08[15:36:59] <roptat> teddd, your message got kinda lost in the matrix storm, and I don't know how to help you, sorry. it looks like you're doing things correctly, although I'm not sure umask makes any sense for an ntfs file-system?
2021-10-06[15:51:03] <lilyp> oh right, if it's an ntfs volume, you need ntfs in your OS packages
2021-09-10[03:17:06] <lfam> Hey nckx, did the new ntfs-3g work for you?
2021-09-09[21:57:16] * nckx eyes $partners NTFS thumbdrives with new-kindled fear; upgrades.
2021-09-09[22:23:10] <lfam> nckx: Can you check that you can still access those NTFS filesystems with the update
2021-09-05[03:31:01] <nckx> This is like SELinux suddenly locking the system because you changed a file on your NTFS partition.
2021-07-20[10:39:43] <MysteriousSilver> hello, trying to mount a NTFS file system, should I specify type as ntfs-3g or just ntfs? (in system.scm)
2021-07-17[19:04:17] <Guest39> Hola,si tengo rufus que debo usar para guix fat32 o ntfs ? gracias
2021-06-27[13:58:41] <MysteriousSilver> how should i mount a ntfs filesystem with write permission?
2021-06-27[13:58:41] <MysteriousSilver> from what i know one should install a package called ntfs-3g
2021-06-27[13:58:41] <MysteriousSilver> should i mention ntfs-3g instead of ntfs in configuration?
2021-06-27[15:41:49] <leoprikler> MysteriousSilver: either use ntfs-3g directly or add it to your OS packages field
2021-06-21[00:16:17] <rndd> i've installed ntfs-3g and fuse, but cannot mount ntfs partition in read write mode?
2021-06-21[00:40:38] <nckx> Ideas, since you asked: you're not actually using ntfs-3g but the suckful in-kernel driver; the file system needs checking (which can't be fixed with Free software) or is hibernated (same).
2021-06-21[00:48:44] <rndd> nckx: so, i cannot use ntfs with guix (if use only libre software?)
2021-06-21[00:50:04] <nckx> Why use NTFS at all?
2021-06-21[00:54:05] <nckx> Well, Linux support for NTFS is what it is (poor). But I can't help you if you don't share more info.