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<jab>I'm hoping to get the next qoth sent in a day or so.

<GNU_Hurd_Rocks>my sanity existed and now doesn't :3

<sigttou>surprised how civil the ml is around the llm emails lately

<sam_>just ignoring it all, but bit tiring

<sam_>even if you like llms it's complete gibberish

<sigttou>yes, it's quite strange

<etno>I am holding myself back so many times from asking questions on the ML. Maybe I shouldn't 😅

<etno>Well, usually, trying to understand and searching a bit gets me sorted

<sigttou>I like the speedup I get for research, setup, testing

<GNU_Hurd_Rocks>sigttou: llm emails? what was it done towards?

<sigttou>nothing, I am just not sure what people want to achieve

<sam_>etno: please for the love of god, any actual hurd content, even if you had the silliest question on earth (and i'm sure it isn't), would be welcome

<etno>Haha, thanks sam_ :)

<GNU_Hurd_Rocks>there are too many things I need to do before I can even look further into Hurd, unfortunately, things you can't just decide to go sleep instead...

<etno>There is one question I did not find a definitive answer: some wiki documentation advises that one can attach gdb to a running translator.

<etno>However, PTRACE_ATTACH doesn't reparent the tracee in the proc translator

<GNU_Hurd_Rocks>yep I'm definitely familiar with such a concept, but haven't actually seen it done

<etno>So attaching fails with ECHILD

<etno>And the code checking for this is untouched since 2004 (<- if memory serves well)

<etno>For now, I develop my translators by sending logs to a file, and more recently, by implementing a trivfs file, and using 'cat' to dump the state

<etno>Haha, I feel that this is a tough question. Maybe youpi has the background?

<GNU_Hurd_Rocks>I found the channel logs OwO

<GNU_Hurd_Rocks>for today, https://logs.guix.gnu.org/hurd/2026-09-29.log

<youpi>that's in the topic, yes

<GNU_Hurd_Rocks>I am blind to the obvious things, yes

<youpi>etno: attaching gdb to a translator should just work, it worked for me last time I tried

<GNU_Hurd_Rocks>is that like attaching gdb to a pid?