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<npcomp>Hi, I am trying to kick the tires on guix in a VM.

<npcomp>To that end I pxeboot a live environment of flatcar linux, then I run the guix-install.sh, but it seems to fail to finish setting up the daemon, etc.

<FuncProgLinux>First time I hear about that distribution, since it's a foreign system the script might not be detecting something it needs to proceed.

<npcomp>What do you mean by foreign system? Just not guix os?

<FuncProgLinux>Yes, systems with the guix daemon that are not Guix system

<npcomp>FuncProgLinux: Is this something that it's worth reporting bugs about? I have found a few things that slowed me down, but maybe the odball base system I'm using isn't of interest from a support perspective?

<npcomp>So far, it's mostly around the fact that /usr is mounted read-only.

<iyzsong>yeah the guix-install.sh script write some files in /usr/local and /usr/share. in that case, manaully install guix without the script can be a way.

<dajole>Does anyone per chance have an example package for a printer driver? I'm trying to get my printer to work; unfortunately the splix package doesn't include the driver for it, so I'm trying to write a package that I can add as a cups extension.

<civodul>Hello Guix!

<alteregon>ACTION nods

<jlicht>hey civodul o/

<civodul>looks like the 1.6.0 release team is shaping up!

<untrusem>yes I wanted to take the release advocate responsibility but couldn't join the meet due to personal reasons

<untrusem>nonetheless its good :)

<civodul>yup! nice that you’re volunteering

<protvin>How to verify latest image?

<protvin>I have to download image form the tor.

<untrusem>there should be a signature file

<protvin>Where?

<civodul>protvin: you can get signatures from https://guix.gnu.org/download/

<protvin>civodul: I found here, only for stable images

<civodul>right, there are no signatures for CI-generated images

<civodul>(sorry if i misunderstood!)

<lechner>Hi, which part of Guix causes my root user to be denied permission to list a non-FUSE folder otherwise only accessible to a non-root user (operm 700) please?

<lechner>nvm, it is root_squash on NFS

<protvin>civodul: No way to check?

<jlicht>ACTION would love a time-machine-based one-liner to generate/challenge tarballs & release artifacts

<civodul>protvin: no

<civodul>jlicht: very little is missing!

<jlicht>Yeah I think I nabbed some of Rutherther's stuff and am currently heating my room :-)

<jlicht>the goal would be something like guix time-machine -q --commit=<V+1> -- build -e '((@ (gnu ci release) guix-dist-tarball))

<jlicht>quick question; a fixed-output-derivation can have multiple possible "paths" to room, as long as the output hash + name are identical, right?

<jlicht>s/room/Rome/

<civodul>jlicht: put differently: there can be several derivations producing the same output, due to the presence of one or more fixed-output derivation in the graph

<jlicht>yes, exactly! In that case, I think it's fairly simple to have a f.o.d. to inject e.g. changelogs, and author files for tarballs

<civodul>hmm no, because otherwise it’s no longer “fixed-output”?

<civodul>“fixed output” really means that, no matter how you obtain a given thing, its content hash will always be the same

<civodul>you could be using Git, or wget, or Disarchive, or carrier pigeons: it doesn’t matter

<jlicht>exactly; we need some "impure way" to get a constant result

<jlicht>where some == many multiple ways, potentially

<civodul>anyone with some AppArmor experience could give a hand on this one? https://codeberg.org/guix/guix/issues/11467

<untrusem>hi guix

<untrusem> https://paste.rs/m2NEg

<untrusem>I have trying to patch composer.phar in this package, but I don't think its its having any effect, the package builds, but gets substituted

<untrusem>any help is appreciated

<jlicht>civodul: not an expert by any means, but if collective victimhood counts :-)

<jlicht>untrusem: I don't thing you are applying ("running") the lambda, just defining it

<jlicht>s/thing/think

<jlicht>untrusem: and perhaps using the copy-build-system already does what you want (w.r.t the patching)

<untrusem>I do have it

<untrusem> https://paste.rs/IkicO

<civodul>jlicht: good! :-) do you have ideas for the missing apparmor rule? we need to allows /tmp/script to have an interpreter in /gnu/store

<jlicht>civodul: not sure if it's missing; it may just be outdated? (which was the case for a debian server I ran some time ago)

<jlicht>jlicht: so if there's no diff, we'd have to look into some logs

<jlicht>not jlicht, civodul :-)

<untrusem>decoding-error "peek-char" "input decoding error" 84 #<input: composer.phar 7>

<jlicht>untrusem: is composer.phar some kind of archive?

<civodul>jlicht: it happens with a fresh 1.5 install on Ubuntu, AIUI

<untrusem>yep think so

<untrusem>ACTION is doing all this just to not do `php composer.phar`

<untrusem>the effect of guix

<jlicht>civodul: I do think 1.5.0 predates the 2 most recent changes to the profile file; I _think_ guix pull does not update the file in /etc?

<civodul>oh! good point

<protvin>1.6.0 is soon?

<jlicht>protvin: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2026-10/msg00037.html

<jlicht>untrusem: I've just downloaded it, but when I change anything, I get a signature issue. So i think having a wrapper is the only way forward

<jlicht>if you don't want things to break after every graft, that is

<untrusem>jlicht, yep I got to the signature myself actually

<protvin>jlicht: I think about prepare translations for that.

<untrusem>protvin, there will be a meet in few days, you could join the volunteer

<untrusem>jlicht, it was the first thing I encountered and thought this is somehow due to me

<untrusem>searching it, its not me

<jlicht>untrusem: no, "just" using the copy-build-system seems to patch things and break the signature

<untrusem>that's why I wanted to try trivial

<protvin>untrusem: In jitsi?

<untrusem>yep

<jlicht>untrusem: you could try the copy-build-system and no php input; in that case, the shebang should stay "floating" and pick up the php you have installed. Not perfect

<untrusem>yeah that works

<t3kkm0tt>Hi, I'm back. I'm on guix-system now, but I'm having issues with rust. Does anyone know how to get the necessary library?

<t3kkm0tt>error while loading shared libraries: libgcc_s.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

<t3kkm0tt>Anyone?

<civodul>t3kkm0tt: hi! a possible reason is LD_LIBRARY_PATH: can you make sure it is unset?

<civodul>with: unset LD_LIBRARY_PATH

<civodul>then we would need more details, in particular how the program that triggers this error was built

<t3kkm0tt>civodul ok, I'm gonna try unsetting first.

<t3kkm0tt>civodul well, that didn't help.

<t3kkm0tt>civodul the repo is https://github.com/janTatesa/pokisona

<civodul>t3kkm0tt: how did you build it?

<t3kkm0tt>civodul cargo run

<untrusem>oops then

<t3kkm0tt>huh

<untrusem>its basically a foreign binary then which will you need to patch

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem but is that the reason for the error?

<t3kkm0tt>I mean... there is uhh carguix

<t3kkm0tt>nevermind, that's for crates

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem what should I do then

<elevenkb>Is there a way to apply a package transformation to a home configuration, so that that package is transformed and all the packages which depend on it are rebuilt?

<untrusem>t3kkm0tt: you have two option, pathelf it or make a guix package

<untrusem>elevenkb: graft?

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem what is pathelf?

<untrusem>t3kkm0tt: https://zie87.github.io/posts/guix-foreign-binaries/

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem my compositor just crashed, can you repeat if you said something?

<civodul>you can check https://logs.guix.gnu.org/guix/2026-10-05.log :-)

<t3kkm0tt>oopsies

<elevenkb>untrusem: Well the package I want to replace is org mode, I want my home environment to use a fork with a cool new WIP feature that I want. AFAICT, grafting `(@ (gnu packages emacs-xyz) org-mode)` would mean that I'd have to build guix from source right?

<tusharhero-xmpp>elevenkb, you can do package transformation or just define a package variant and us that.

<tusharhero-xmpp>*use

<tusharhero-xmpp>package transformation is more convienient if you don't want to put it in your guix home

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem i don't know how to apply patchelf to cargo build

<elevenkb>tusharehro-xmpp, yep. but the trouble is that if I have other upstream packages that depend on `org-mode` and I put those into my the packages list of my home-profile, then I'd have duplicate copies of `org-mode` in one profile which is not allowed. I'm hoping that I can apply map `(options->transformation ⋯)` to the package-list.

<untrusem>t3kkm0tt: have you done any packaging in guix?

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem not yet

<untrusem>I will try to patch this for you when I am on my machine

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem thanks

<untrusem>t3kkm0tt: cargo build must have generated a binary right?

<untrusem>you tried the steps in the blog post?

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem i did

<t3kkm0tt>But I don't have a binary.

<untrusem>tokipona doesn't generate a binary?

<untrusem>you didn't build the binary?

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem what-

<untrusem>t3kkm0tt: did you use cargo build?

<untrusem>to produce a binary

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem i did, but as i said, it throws errors.

<untrusem>yep as expected

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem the build throws errors, so I don't have a binary

<untrusem>I thought you were using a pre built one

<untrusem>my bad

<t3kkm0tt>ohh

<untrusem>packaging rust application as your first package might not be easy but if you are up for it I can link resources

<t3kkm0tt>i saw the section in the manual

<untrusem>there is one in cookbook too

<untrusem>I would suggest that

<gkoebel-ext>Is there a manual entry I'm missing to get M-x pdf-tools-install to function properly on a Guix System?

<gkoebel-ext>Error output: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/38cb8d2a

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem oki, thanks

<gkoebel-ext>disregard question. I ran `guix install emacs-pdf-tools` and restarted emacs and that fixed it

<protvin_>Qt update merging before 1.6.0?

<FuncProg`>o/

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem I'm having another problem. The packaged rust version in the guix repos is outdated.

<t3kkm0tt>(if let stuff doesn't work)

<gkoebel-ext>it would appear something required for KDE Plasma to launch pinentry for KWallet doesn't persist through reboots on a Guix System causing it to fail with a No Pinentry found. I have a pinentry specified in my .guix-home/configuration.scm and that was working before.

<untrusem>t3kkm0tt: hi

<untrusem>there is a solution for it

<untrusem>and they left :p

<gkoebel-ext>:o

<redacted>Is there a way to invoke guix weather such that it checks all the packages installed on my system?

<redacted>I'd like to know whether I'd need to build anything before attempting a pull.

<redacted>So I'm looking for something like `guix time-machine -- pull <flags>'

<redacted>oh that's wrong

<redacted>I mean

<redacted>`guix time-machine -- weather <flags>'

<redacted>Ultimately it'd be convenient to run something like `guix time-machine -- weather <flags> && guix pull'

<redacted>So I don't have to cancel a long-running build I'd rather let the substitutes handle.

<gkoebel-ext>redacted: `guix weather -m` would check only packages in a manifest. I'm not sure of the format but I'd think you can cook up a script to generate said manifest

<gkoebel-ext>redacted: `guix package --export-manifest` will give you the packages on your profile. Then `guix weather -m MANIFEST_FILE` will check for substitutes for all those packages

<t3kkm0tt>Soooo, I'm here again! I'm currently struggling to make my home configuration "run" on boot. Could anybody help me?

<gkoebel-ext>redacted: or as a oneliner: guix package --export-manifest > mantest && guix weather -m mantest

<gkoebel-ext>untrusem: They have returned!

<t3kkm0tt>gkoebel-ext w- what

<gkoebel-ext>you left right before untrusem I think found a solution to your previous question

<t3kkm0tt>ohhhh, I did figure out that i needed to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to $LIBRARY_PATH and surprisingly, it worked. The only problem is that the rust version in the official channel is so old...

<t3kkm0tt>why is `old` a user

<untrusem>t3kkm0tt: what rust version you need

<untrusem>rust-team branch have upto 1.98

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem one that supports `if let` statements

<untrusem>ACTION is not accustomed to rust

<untrusem>to get rust from those channels you have two options

<untrusem>1) copy it over to your channel and call from those

<untrusem>2) use inferiors

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem mhh, ok.

<t3kkm0tt>`I'm currently struggling to make my home configuration "run" on boot. Could anybody help me?` (message from some time ago)

<untrusem>any logs?

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem uhm, I don't really know **how** to do that.

<t3kkm0tt>(make it run on boot)

<t3kkm0tt>I do not want a greeter

<t3kkm0tt>(dm)

<untrusem>ohh you want straight login into your user?

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem yeah, because I have set my wayland compositor to execute the lockscreen on boot.

<t3kkm0tt>(on start)

<untrusem>ok you can remove the dm then in your system config

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem I've already tried that, but it doesn't do anything when I do that.

<untrusem>can you share your config?

<untrusem> https://bpa.st

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem which one

<untrusem>system

<untrusem>and home

<untrusem>both

<untrusem> https://codeberg.org/untrusem/verito

<untrusem>this is my config

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem oki

<untrusem> https://codeberg.org/untrusem/verito/src/branch/trunk/verito.org#headline-26

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem https://bpa.st/MDKQ 1st

<t3kkm0tt>i did use the graphical installer because it was 3 am and i was lazy

<t3kkm0tt>i have modified it though. I had to use the linux kernel instead of the linux-libre kernel

<t3kkm0tt>i'm gonna do a kernel patch in the future though.

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem https://bpa.st/735A

<t3kkm0tt>i'm on niri right now, but i'm planning to create my own service for a wayland compositor in the future.

<untrusem>I am on niri too

<untrusem>first of all, Welcome to guix t3kkm0tt

<untrusem>do you use emacs btw

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem will I be executed if I don't?

<untrusem>naah

<untrusem>we don't bite

<t3kkm0tt>i've been using nvim for cfgs and stuff and gram for coding

<old>t3kkm0tt: because I am

<t3kkm0tt>i do have emacs installed

<untrusem>old of guile and blue fame

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem what do you think about my config? How should I auto log-in?

<untrusem>yep on it

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem oki :3

<untrusem>basically you need to remove (gdm-service-type) also check (login-service-type) and (mingetty-service-type)

<untrusem>also check this section in cookbook

<untrusem>3.1 Auto-Login to a Specific TTY

<untrusem>================================

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem wait- where is gdm-service-type?

<untrusem>search the terms on https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/guix.html

<lonely_ghost>i could need some help for a niri setup. someone so kind ?

<untrusem> https://guix.gnu.org/cookbook/en/html_node/Auto_002dLogin-to-a-Specific-TTY.html

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem oh, did you mean remove the service entirely

<untrusem>yep

<untrusem>I can share the code bit if you want

<untrusem>lonely_ghost, https://codeberg.org/untrusem/verito

<untrusem>there is also home-niri-service-type iirc

<untrusem>I don't use that though

<lonely_ghost>untrusem: thx.

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem i'm using that

<untrusem>t3kkm0tt, https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/guix.html#Using-the-Configuration-System

<untrusem>I don't see modify-services in your config t3kkm0tt,

<t3kkm0tt>untrusem oopsies

<untrusem>anyway I need to head out, I have shared everything need to achieve your task

<t3kkm0tt>oki

<t3kkm0tt>bai

<gnufairy>I am a bit confused by the info docs on the guix mpv home service, how do I use it to enable hardware accel for my Sandybridge T420?

<sneek>Welcome back gnufairy, you have 1 message!

<sneek>gnufairy, lechner says: When did you last clean the lint off the fan?

<gnufairy>hopefully the seller did, when they librebooted the thing

<t3kkm0tt>why is guix not using my channels

<t3kkm0tt>it's only using 2 out of 3

<gkoebel-ext>iirc it should report some error, typical ones being the channel can't be reached or something is wrong with authentication

<lonely_ghost>newbie question. to update my system is better to run guix pull (as user) and then sudo .... reconfigure or run everything with sudo -i ?

<t3kkm0tt>gkoebel-ext it acts as if it doesn't exist.

<t3kkm0tt>lonely_ghost I think only system commands should be executed with suda

<t3kkm0tt>sudo*

<t3kkm0tt>and archive

<gnufairy>guix pull is recommended to be run as the user by the docs.

<gnufairy>Only guix system reconfigure needs root privileges I believe, that and guix system delete-generations.

<gnufairy>Guix pull will update the guix you use anyway in future commands.

<gkoebel-ext>iirc guix pull is what you should do.

<gkoebel-ext>ah too slow

<gkoebel-ext>reconfigure is for when you are changing the system config files

<gkoebel-ext>afaik

<t3kkm0tt>```

<t3kkm0tt>Updating channel 'guix-rust-team' from Git repository at 'https://codeberg.org/guix/guix'...

<t3kkm0tt>guix pull: warning: pulled channel 'guix-rust-team' from a mirror of https://git.guix.gnu.org/guix.git, which might be stale

<t3kkm0tt>Updating channel 'guix' from Git repository at 'https://git.guix.gnu.org/guix.git'...

<t3kkm0tt>Building from these channels:

<t3kkm0tt> guix-rust-team https://codeberg.org/guix/guix 52d3238

<t3kkm0tt> guix https://git.guix.gnu.org/guix.git 4341c00

<t3kkm0tt>Computing Guix derivation for 'x86_64-linux'... /warning: 'typst' is deprecated, use '(@ (gnu packages typst) typst)' instead

<gnufairy>yes, system reconfigure is for the system wheras home reconfigur eis for home.

<gkoebel-ext>t3kkm0tt: careful with multiline pastes. Libera is still ircv2

<t3kkm0tt>oops

<t3kkm0tt>gkoebel-ext there should be a third channel called 'nonguix'

<gnufairy>try not to discuss non-free channels here. Try on the subreddit....

<t3kkm0tt>gnufairy I uninstalled reddit and deleted my account... it's also a general issue because it did that with another channel before.

<t3kkm0tt>Also, I couldn't even use guix if I didn't have nvidia drivers. I can't afford a new gpu right now...

<t3kkm0tt>i only use it for nvidia drivers

<gnufairy>Some old Nvidia GPUs work fine under the libre drivers have you tried? I recall one in a Dell desktop from the Haswell gen

<t3kkm0tt>gnufairy I've got a 3060ti, I don't think that works. The nvidia kernel modules are open source though, as far as I know.

<t3kkm0tt>,_,

<gkoebel-ext>t3kkm0tt: guix describe should output some blurb with your configured channels. If not I'd double check the problem channels setup instructions against your config.scm

<t3kkm0tt>gkoebel-ext ok, will try that.

<reyman>hi

<reyman>i'm trying to build a python/rust package that use maturin. I compile one rust package that need another one : zensical need zrx multiple packages

<reyman>it works, but when i call python with maturin, maturin try to download zrx from crates.io :(

<reyman>error: failed to get `zrx` as a dependency of package `zensical v0.0.66 (/tmp/guix-build-python-zensical-0.0.66.drv-0/source/crates/zensical)`

<reyman>any idea to block that ? 

<Hannah_>Hiya

<Hannah_>I'm t3kkm0tt

<Hannah_>On my phone

<Hannah_>Soo, it didn't work...

<Hannah_>gkoebel-ext: any idea why niri might not start?

<Hannah_>I think it complained about me not having systemd, but that shouldn't be a problem.

<Hannah_>I mean shouldn't be happening.

<Hannah_>Because I am using the home service from guix-home.

<Hannah_>"/bin/sh line 1: systemct: command not found

<Hannah_>"

<Hannah_>Nvidia issue I guess

<Hannah_>I *could* use nouveau though.

<t3kkm0tt>Test

<Hannah_>Oh, ok. It works.