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<trannus_aran_>hey, anyone familiar with the goblins OCapN tutorial?
<dthompson>hi trannus_aran!
<trannus_aran_>I can get the chat app to produce an sref, but I can't get the client to work :/
<dthompson>yes, I'm familiar, though I will have to look at it again
<trannus_aran_>dthompson: hello! :D
<dthompson>okay so you can't enliven the sturdyref?
<trannus_aran_>weird, I wonder why ":D" renders as the laugh cry emoji, but maybe that's just on my client haha
<trannus_aran_>dthompson: no, simpler than that I'm pretty sure
<dthompson>I see :D as plain text over here
<trannus_aran_>just the cli complains that it doesn't know what the username passed is (as if it's passed straight to bash instead of the (command-line) in the guile script)
<trannus_aran_>guile simple-chat-user.scm <ocapn-sref> <username>
<dthompson>ah, interesting. so what does (command-line) return in the client?
<trannus_aran_>good question, lemme see here
<trannus_aran_>ah, yeah, it's just returning a sexp of __program-name, then the ocapn sref. The second argument is ignored entirely?
<dthompson>okay so how are you invoking the program?
<dthompson>sounds like there's shell syntax issue
<dthompson>if you aren't wrapping the sturdyref uri in double quotes, try that
<trannus_aran_>aha! that totally did it, thanks!
<trannus_aran_>Apologies if you see me in here a bunch asking stuff like this X) I'm working on the goblins-eris demo and trying to hammer out the process here for both goblins+ocapn and hoot stuff. I remember a decent amount, but there's edge cases here n there
<dthompson>oh awesome!
<dthompson>yes please ask away and we'll help out whenever we're online
<trannus_aran_>thank you very much! :) will do!
<dthompson>I pushed a change to the ocapn tutorials that modifies/adds shell examples that wrap the sturdyref in double quotes
<stdh>hello spritely!
<stdh>i'm trying out prof. hoot, but i run into problems with the included manifest: when building guile-hoot* i get the message that bootstrap failed
<stdh>log says: In execvp of ./bootstrap.sh: Permission denied
<stdh>anybody know a quick fix? (i seem to recall this being mentioned in a mailing list or something, unsure, and no idea where exactly)
<stdh>my command was `guix shell --manifest=manifest.scm --check --root=../hoot-ide-env`