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<dthompson>it's been a looooong time since I've had a media pc but back in 2015ish I used guix on it. I am the original packager of kodi but I haven't used it in years. <dckc>well, knowing it's been done by somebody I know is just the sort of thing that would influence my decision! <dckc>"when choosing tools, use what the folks around you use" is something I have sort of learned. I continue to use linux while most of the world around me has moved on to Macs... <dckc>trying out nix made me realize how much debian black magic I have internalized. <dckc>last time I tried guix for something, I couldn't even download a pre-built binary and run it cuz guix's lib-c was missing some widget. <dckc>I'm happy to DIY to a certain point, but I can't spend my whole life on such things :) <dthompson>yeah you won't be able to do that on guix without making a container that emulates FHS <dckc>well, that sort of "asbestos gloves" is somewhat called for when grabbing binaries from the net and turning them loose <dthompson>since those binaries are almost always built with the assumption you are running on a debian or red hat derivative <dckc>the particular libc widget that was missing is no longer missing, I gather. <dckc>but IIRC, it took ~3 years to get into guix <dckc>so I was really happy with `guix system vm`... <dckc>I'd like to do something similar with hardware: I'm sitting at machine B, and I have an external disk hooked up... <dckc>I want to put guix on that disk, and then move it over to the media PC. <dckc>can you sketch how I would do it? <dthompson>mount the second drive and then use 'guix system init os-config.scm /the/mount/point' to install guix there <dckc>ok... how about partitioning and grub and whatnot? <dckc>(btw... anything I can do for you while I'm aboot?) <dthompson>I haven't done an install this way so I don't really know <dckc>my earlier vm builds and runs! yay! <dckc>(after downloading 0.5 internets, of course) <dckc>_reads manual re guix system init and grub..._ <dckc>3.6.1.3 Disk Partitioning <dckc>ooh... my Makefile notes include partitioning! <dckc>building /gnu/store/xgbixfr8wd9nm2wz4mv0rfs50jrr0wpg-install-bootloader.scm.drv... <dckc>guix system: bootloader successfully installed on #f <dckc>so... it seems I've been down this road. I wonder why I wasn't happy with the result. <dckc>gonna try it on the target machine. wish me luck <dckc>(I'm using a USB SATA adapter for now...) <dckc>hm. the PC goes into some diagnostic mode <dckc>did I forget to update a filesystem pointer of some kind? <dckc>no... switching to #guix ... <Guest26>hi, is there a simple example for communicating over the network with goblins in guile? goblins chat seems like what I want but it's in racket <cwebber>Guest26: there's a guile version. unfortunately due to challenges with the gtk and guile bindings it can be a bit challenging to run the ui <cwebber>but we're working on showing a version with goblins + hoot soon that will be easier to interact with! <cwebber>however while a small amount of code, it's a bit complicated to understand as a first example. What would be better would be to have the "hello world" of goblins + the network be a 1:1 instant message session <cwebber>that's probably a better example to look at, yeah <cwebber>it's on my agenda to redo that page and put up the larger project plan on the website <cwebber>Guest26: btw one neat thing is that the guile and racket versions of goblin-chat *can* talk to each other <cwebber>here they are talking over the tor onion netlayer (hence the lag too) 