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<cow_2001>glenneth glenneth_ oh hai der https://0x0.st/XEaj.txt
<cow_2001>there's some problem compiling hoot or something and we don't know what's what
<glenneth>hey cow_2001
<glenneth>Also from one of the log files https://0x0.st/XEa2.txt
<cow_2001>value of the.. uh.. form(?) should be the string "4242", but instead we get an error from the form
<dpk>cwebber: when did Spritely switch its focus from Racket to Guile?
<cwebber>Hi
<cwebber>dpk: hm, I need to look again
<cwebber>It was right when the institute was spinning up
<cwebber>I had done a marathon hack session on a multi day train ride right after Jessica started
<cwebber>Then when I got back I asked Jessica to spend some time with it, and she quickly agreed it was much easier to debug Guile than Racket
<cwebber>But lemme check the commit history when I get upstairs to my computer
<cwebber>Jessica then completed the port
<cwebber>It was kinda her training, really
<dpk>hehe :-)
<dpk>i’m going to present an R7RS status update at TFP, and i’m going to mention Spritely
<dpk>as one of the main projects that are reinvigorating interest in Scheme
<cwebber>Oh wow awesome
<dthompson>dpk: that's great! :)
<dthompson>exciting!
<cwebber>July 23, 2021 was the first commit to guile-goblins
<cwebber>I started porting it in stages so we could explain and understand how to bring the core ideas of Goblins to other languages
<cwebber>Jessica Tallon started contributing in March 2022
<dpk>cool, thanks :D
<cwebber>Goblins itself was announced publicly in 2018
<cwebber>by May 2023 Guile became the official main version of Goblins https://spritely.institute/news/spritely-goblins-v0110-released-time-travel-distributed-debugging-and-more.html
<cwebber>hey jfred do you have a picture of your metacircular evaluator plate for the mnt pocket reform anywhere
<cwebber>dthompson would like to see
<jfred>cwebber: yup, posted some on the fediverse a while back: https://jawns.club/@jfred/113228639767886871
<dthompson>yessss
<dthompson>I have no idea what the text is
<jfred>cwebber: and now that I know it fits let's coordinate, I can send you one of the extras :)
<dthompson>but I see an empty list
<dpk>nice!
<dpk>i want to remake https://cdn.jwz.org/images/2016/cvlmug_viaavetd.jpg as a sticker to put on the back of a laptop or similar
<jfred>(at the ren faire now though haha)
<dpk>i do not know what the last digit of the Symbolics service telephone number was, which is one problem
<jfred>dpk: I wish the text had been cut off at a slightly different place. "Please handle with car"
<dpk>haha
<dthompson>I've been thinking about really niche bumper stickers for schemers
<dpk>aha, it was 1-800-824-4263 https://donhopkins.com/home/SlugMailingList/msg00162.html
<cwebber>jfred: yessss :D
<robin>dpk, i was going to suggest 3 :p given that it looks like good old helvetica
<robin>which would make it easy to reproduce, too
<robin>not sure what typeface was used for "symbolics", but i'm sure that's documented somewhere
<robin>an oblique variant of eurostile, i think
<robin> https://archive.org/details/ulc-magazine/Volume%2011-2/page/26/mode/1up
<robin>"The digital font side of the solution will come from master-makers such as those from Bitstream, Inc. In conjunction with Symbolics, the Artificial Intelligence computer builders, they have developed a program which creates font bit-maps from outline masters. [...] The thinkware and machinery cost about $160,000, a bargain by any font library development standards." :)
<robin>(followed by a...creative metaphor regarding a postscript vm being like a translator between english and etruscan)
<robin>bitstream has their own take on eurostile but i'd guess symbolics used novarese's eurostile, or an ~exact copy (there are "eurex{12,21,24}i.bdf" files in the opengenera distribution)
<jfred>dthompson: there's the classic "my other car is a cdr". Though I think " cadr" fits better haha
<dthompson>my other car is an MIT CADR
<jfred>I would absolutely use a scheme-y bumper sticker though
<jfred>exactly haha
<dthompson>I might get some of these printed
<robin>"Europe, kind of. (Soneone should check a map, and find out how the Soviet write dates, when we enter that market...)"
<robin>eurex = eurostile extended. idk why that seemed so hard to figure out :p
<robin>(as opposed to condensed; there are other "extended" eurostile fonts with e.g. latin-1 support)