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<cookie>hey, how is this doing?

<cookie>are there any demos for the social network level things yet?

<cookie>or the p2p stuff?

<dthompson>the latest goblins release introduced initial support for libp2p

<dthompson>we aren't yet at the stage of doing social networks, though internally we're dogfooding goblins with a WIP chat app

<cookie>ooh nice

<cookie>do you have a video somewhere?

<dthompson>not currently. we have a public repo but it's not really ready for public consumption yet. https://gitlab.com/spritely/fantasary

<dthompson>specifically the libp2p branch https://gitlab.com/spritely/fantasary/-/tree/libp2p?ref_type=heads

<dthompson>very underbaked, very WIP, very unsupported but in the interest of transparency :)

<dthompson>it's one of those "throw the first one away" kind of prototypes but it's been very useful for testing how goblins is actually working in the context of a larger program.

<cookie>the sturdyref does indeed look sturdy

<cookie>i like that it's a websocket transport somewhere in there

<dthompson>the sturdyref is also completely irrelevant. it's stale, from a past game jam when we worked on it

<dthompson>(it's supposed to have some MUD-like features)

<cookie>the WASM bits are neat too

<dthompson>yeah we use hoot to generate the frontend

<dthompson>and the web client communicates with the main app over a websocket

<dthompson>this is *temporary* because we don't yet have goblins working sufficiently when compiled to wasm... but we're close

<cookie>hm, if I have you for a bit

<cookie>what's a room coordinator? https://gitlab.com/spritely/fantasary/-/blame/4e012fa4b14543cd6e3e6bc690ddd9babce9fa76/fantasary/rooms.scm#L319

<cookie>is that like xmpp's model?

<cookie>i'm glad you're building out some demos that's very important to verify your model really holds up

<cookie>if you have the resources maybe try & put them a bit more 'on the line'

<cookie>like I stumbled into spritely again after $X months and went to the site and it's some 100%theory presentations which gives off a really strong "research project" vibe

<dthompson>we have many smaller demos that you can try now

<dthompson>such as this game that incorporates hoot + an early wasm port of goblins (no networking) https://davexunit.itch.io/cirkoban

<dthompson>it's using the actor model to implement a puzzle game

<dthompson>our blog has many small demos

<dthompson>we're absolutely plan on showcasing bigger demos but we have to build the infrastructure first

<dthompson>we*

<dthompson>but we're all about demos here so I don't agree that our blog is 100% theory

<dthompson>to answer the room coordinator question: I didn't write this particular bit of code but it seems to be something Jessica extracted out of the ^room actor to manage adding/removing objects.

<cookie>the game demo is @ 80% scrollthrough on https://spritely.institute/

<cookie>i'm glad the project is moving along!

<dthompson>our latest hoot release blog post includes a demo of a simple scheme repl embedded in a web page, which I think is pretty neat https://spritely.institute/news/guile-hoot-v050-released.html

<dthompson>it's not a goblins demo, but it's a big step towards, say, having a web page that is a goblins tutorial that lets you try out code right in the page

<cookie>yesyes! nic

<cookie>* nice

<dthompson>we'd really like to make it easy to try out goblins without having to install anything! just go to a web page and give it a shot

<cookie>i'm excited for when you cross the threshold into that and can more rapidly prototype

<cookie>standing up a whole platform is a tonne of work

<cookie>i hope it works

<dthompson>we're making a ton of progress!

<dthompson>just today we got web crypto integrated with the wasm goblins port. soon enough we'll be able to do something like ocapn over websocket.

<mala>woohoo!!!

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