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<mala>jfred, I remember where I've seen willowprotocol before -- Iroh, an IPFS cousin, implements it <jfred>oh interesting, I hadn't heard of this <jfred>cwebber: Propagator question for you when you get the chance. I was just checking out Brainy and my first thought was to try and build a D&D character sheet that would calculate the various dependent stats from the character's base stats. But it seems like once a pcell has taken a value, that value is fixed. Is this inherent to propagators/how would you deal with changing information? <jfred>(And I know Brainy is very experimental, etc - if this is something that propagators can potentially handle but Brainy can't at the moment, no worries!) <cwebber>jfred: aha! You are correct... At the moment. See Alexey Radul's dissertation, it shows how to wire up functional reactive programming to propagators <cwebber>The trick is to treat time based inputs as a partial information type <cwebber>Newer timed values replace older information <civodul>cwebber: hey, what intro paper to propagators would you recommend? <cwebber>civodul: Alexey Radul's dissertation, 100% <cwebber>And my talk is, I think, a reasonable fast intro to watch first <civodul>(and yes, i’m aware of your talk too, though i’d like to sit down and read, behind the window, in winter, you know) <cwebber>Brainy uses syntax closer to the revised report over Alexey's dissertation but is not faithful in full to either <cwebber>And I have returned to it many times <cwebber>Please let me know what you think of it! <civodul>is there a PDF of the revised report?… <cwebber>There is of Art of the Propagator though <cwebber>Which is shorter than Alexey's dissertation, but not as thoroughly illuminating <civodul>the dissertation is more intimidating :-) <jfred>cwebber: aha, that makes sense! will have to go back and read that dissertation, I've read through it some before but helps to have more context from trying things hands-on <alanz>random question: Is Veilid being considered for transport at any time? <dthompson>alanz: nothing in the works but the idea has been brought up! <alanz>Nice. I have a sense it is going to become a standard connection layer for a lot of things one day <dthompson>the ocapn protocol has the notion of "netlayers" <alanz>yes, I was just reading the 0.12 NEWS and that made me think of it <cwebber>the Veilid main author and I have talked and we both expressed that a Veilid netlayer would be a cool idea <Zarutian_iPad>is it like tor and i2p or more akin to fast anonymous mail/message relays <cwebber>the scope of Veilid is a bit broad, it handles both a content-addressed use case and a connection-oriented use case per my understanding <cwebber>> The framework is conceptually similar to IPFS and Tor, but faster and designed from the ground-up to provide all services over a privately routed network.