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<ridley>I'm taking another look at Noise and figured out why I bounced off of it the first time: It's not a protocol. It's a framework for creating protocols.
<cwebber>yeah it seems that way. could be useful in that way though maybe?
<ridley>Whether or not we decide it is what we need, I see the value in it existing.
<ridley>And is worth looking at futher.
<ridley>*further
<cwebber>yeah
<ridley>At first I found it to be a bit of an extra barrier between my understanding of cryptography (not a cryptographer) and what I want to achieve. But looking again I can see how the framework sort of sets a language that could be helpful for efficiently comparing protocol options.
<ridley>Saying "we should do a Noise protocol" to me is far less important than "what sort of protocol are we looking to use"? Because there are like over a dozen options that the Noise framework permits but most of them are not desirable for my goals.
<dthompson>interesting