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<dthompson>anyone here watched doug crockford's racketcon keynote about actors? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMDHpPN_p08&list=PLXr4KViVC0qKmAX_RnT0-mHKaJrF90Nxb&index=1&pp=iAQB
<dthompson>I believe ocapn is on his radar now, but wasn't when this talk was presented
<randy__>Hmm. I'd mentioned it once or twice in the last few months.
<randy__>He said to me that he's keen on flying solo.
<Zarutian_iPad>randy__: who is? I am lacking context.
<dthompson>randy__: yeah this was prior to you telling him about ocapn
<dthompson>I know he wants to fly solo, but at least he knows ocapn exists now
<calmclam>FYI your website don't seem to have a TLS certificate for www.ocapn.org (but does ocapn.org). You are listed in some search indexes as www.ocapn.org
<dthompson>calmclam: yeah we're aware, thanks for reporting it though! I have a fix for it that's pending review and deployment.
<calmclam>gotcha, thanks
<Zarutian_iPad>reminds me, ocapn over https (I am puttering around with val.town ), a bad or okayish idea?
<dthompson>ocapn over wss sounds good to me
<dthompson>I'd like to see that for goblins, so you can have browser programs talking to servers like your personal relay
<Zarutian_iPad>that works for that but I do have the issue with that each https has a timeout with val.town (one minute) and many other lambda function servers having similiar
<calmclam>I'd be worried if you build on top of http what web vulns (if any) could be repurposed to attack you
<dthompson>Zarutian_iPad: I don't know what val.town is but websocket was made so you can have a steady connection to a server
<dthompson>goblins has a tcp+tls netlayer, websocket+tls would be the browser equivalent
<Zarutian_iPad>yeah, it isnt the steady connection that is a problem but that the function invoked via https gets timed out and killed.
<dthompson>so this is an aws lambda thing?
<Zarutian_iPad>the js function acts a bit like the old cgb-bin of old
<dthompson>long running tasks isn't really something aws lambda is designed for.
<Zarutian_iPad>similiar
<dthompson>aws has a very horrible service on top of lambda called step functions that can be used to build a state machine out of many lambda functions
<dthompson>but otherwise long running tasks need to be pushed to ec2 or ecs
<Zarutian_iPad>can probably do similiar to those step functions with val town functions and the blob storage