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<GNU_Hurd_Rocks>more recently had a thought that Linux has become something controlled by corporations, and the same one's that also want to force their nonfree software onto others <j_importer>GNU_Hurd_Rocks: yeah i had a similar realization a while back when i noticed that it was effectively impossible to keep up with linux kernel patches unless it was your full-time job <j_importer>that seems like it would be a good thing (a cornucopia of new features and improvements) but i think it really just means that only corporate interests can stay involved. i saw the same thing happen with the W3C, which now pretty much just rubber stamps google's ideas <GNU_Hurd_Rocks>well I was thinking my other PC could have ran Hurd but unfortunately most of the devices including the storage and usb are all attached through a Nvidia MCP61 <gcannata23>Hi everyone! Quick question: is anyone currently working on or planning NVMe support in rumpdisk ? <damo22>things like this are possible but nobody has done it yet <gcannata23>damo22: what do you suggest if i am a approaching the rump for the first time ? Obviously one can read the source code but I only know the high level concept. Does exist a reference manual ? <sigttou>alethkit: claire is the GNU AI person, it's just an alias... and they are back on the ml. <GNU_Hurd_Rocks>however, suffering the lack of write support for FFS (linux), this isn't fun at all, I'm wanting to boot openbsd on pi zero 2, it's just not using framebuffer right now <gcannata23>sigttou: I hoped he/she/they/whatever had finished the token budget to send LLMs transcript but it is a stubborn person that GNU AI guy or girl. <bigmike-sit>gcannata23: AI cant really be used on Hurd since you can't copyright non human works and they can theoretically spit out proprietary crap, along with code quality being... dubious. <bigmike-sit>it could bring some potential legal troubles that while linux is big enough to resolve, Hurd isn't necessarily, at least without taking away from development <azert>bigmike-sit: Im not an AI fanboy, but where did you get that ai code cannot be copyrighted? <bigmike-sit>Though with significant human authorship, i think that changes <bigmike-sit>though the line hasn't been clearly defined in the courts yet <bigmike-sit>It's very dubious. I think Asahi Linux has a similar policy, though thats more because they dont want to accidentally infringe on apple code an LLM generates <azert>Apple will never care about that <azert>they are afraid like anyone else that people will code dump crap and then disappear <azeem>I think there are valid reasons to be cautious, including the fact that most AI generated code fails to honor attribution duties for the code it used in training (but that is probably hard to prove) <bigmike-sit>azert: I mean, it's not worth betting the entire project on "this might not piss apple off" <azeem>but it's pretty off-topic as well, maybe more something for #gnu <gcannata23>Gooberpatrol66: As far as I understood there is already the glue code to talk to the rump kernel in rumpdisk in Hurd. It is a matter of including in Hurd the rump nvme driver ? <GNU_Hurd_Rocks>Gooberpatrol66: Gentoo has a package named "sys-kernel/rumpkernel" and I'm not seeing rumpdisk specifically as a package <Gooberpatrol66>i think rumpkernel is not specific to rumpdisk and rumpdisk is included in the hurd repo