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<solid_black>jab: check this out then :D
<solid_black>sergey@htons:~$ settrans -c /tmp/9p.io ~/9pfs/9pfs 9p.io
<solid_black>sergey@htons:~$ ls /tmp/9p.io/
<solid_black>9grid adm contrib dist extra lsr nix patch plan9 _sources wiki xen
<solid_black>$ head -3 /tmp/9p.io/plan9/sys/man/1/0intro
<solid_black>.TH INTRO 1
<solid_black>.SH NAME
<solid_black>intro \- introduction to Plan 9
<solid_black>also heh, have they added nix?
<solid_black>it would of course be especially useful if we had virtio
<solid_black>would anyone here be interested in hacking on 9pfs?
<rsmarples>ok, dhcpcd now compiles at least on gentoo hurd
<rsmarples>a lack of a working git and a working means of updating portage is a little hampering
<rsmarples>sam_: can you help at all here? emerge --sync gives manifest corruption and git barfs on ipc failures (some packages did as well during emerge installation)
<rsmarples>not to mention the many hours an emerge --sync takes, sheesh
<sam_>rsmarples: if you try emerge-webrsync it should be a fair bit faster
<sam_>rsmarples: but I've managed to build git okay myself when I last tried not long ago
<rsmarples>sam_: ok, will try emerge-webrsync
<rsmarples>sam_: do you know if gentoo/hurd uses rumpnet? I see a lot of NetBSD kernel startup when hurd boots.
<sam_>rsmarples: we use rumpdisk unconditionally (not just for amd64, but also x86), but rumpnet we use only for amd64 right now
<sam_>in general the x86 experience is a bit smoother still (at least with gentoo/hurd) than amd64 right now
<sam_>i've done most of my testing on x86
<rsmarples>interesting
<sam_>(read: way more stable)
<rsmarples>sam_: does userland know any difference re rumpnet vx linux/netdde?
<rsmarples>ioctls, expected if_flags meaning, etc
<rsmarples>im specifically looking at IFF_RUNNING meaning "carrier be here"
<rsmarples>as it's different on Linux vs BSD
<rsmarples>bbl, school run
<sam_>can't say sorry, I went straight from the crusty drivers in mach (what x86 uses) -> rumpnet, i didn't try netdde for gentoo at all
<sam_>(and didn't really probe at any network porting stuff yet)
<sam_>I only started on it a few months ago
<rsmarples>alr, webrsync worked
<rsmarples>lets see if updating portage magically fixes git
<rsmarples>97 packages to update
<rsmarples>ah yes, gentoo. now I remember why I left, constantly dealing with package breakage
<rsmarples>sam_: is there a gentoo specific hurd channel? don't want to create platform specific noise here
<rsmarples>ah nvm, another emerge and it gets past that configure step. flaky
<sam_>#gentoo-hurd
<sam_>but again I doubt it's actually the packages themselves
<sam_>i think it's to do with some instability on amd64 i haven't tried to debug let alone report yet
<rsmarples>I'm inclined to agree at this point.
<rsmarples>i often see ipc/mig failures during emerge
<sam_>on x86 i've been able to -e @world and it was all fine, on amd64 it seems to hang when src_compile finishes for gcc
<rsmarples>yeah, I'll nix this VM and try x86
<Gooberpatrol_66>solid_black: im defs interested in looking at 9pfs