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<rrq>mmm I get: Failed to create IPC pipe to subprocess - pipe (1073741871: Address family not supported by protocol

<rrq>that's a debian hurd-amd64; anyone knows a hands-on fix for that?

<p4r4D0xum>hurd can't find hd0 on sata/ide mcp61, any ideas?

<damo22>p4r4D0xum: lspci -nn

<p4r4D0xum>damo22: a moment please

<p4r4D0xum>damo22: https://bpa.st/ABWQ

<damo22>00:06.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 IDE [10de:03ec] (rev a2)

<damo22>00:08.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 SATA Controller [10de:03f6] (rev a2)

<damo22>these might not be supported by rumpdisk currently

<damo22>you can grep in the rumpkernel/buildrump/src/sys directory in the source for "03f6|03ec"

<p4r4D0xum>damo22: it boots with ata though

<p4r4D0xum>unfortately, my hdd got a nasty short and I have only 2 of them

<p4r4D0xum>well, actually one now. :)

<damo22>dev/pci/viaide.c

<damo22>dev/pci/pcidevs.h:#define PCI_PRODUCT_NVIDIA_MCP61_SATA2 0x03f6 /* nForce MCP61 Serial ATA Controller */

<damo22>dev/pci/pcidevs.h:#define PCI_PRODUCT_NVIDIA_MCP61_IDE 0x03ec /* nForce MCP61 ATA133 IDE Controller */

<p4r4D0xum>damo22: that's odd, no?

<damo22>so grep for those two macro defines

<damo22>its only in the viaide.c driver

<damo22>which is not compiled in rump yet

<p4r4D0xum>damo22: much oliged

<story>hey y'all. i just got my first x220T yesterday and i heard that a majority of Debian packages compile on hurd. i saw that the x220T is 64bit and very recently hurd 64bit was able to run on baremetal. is it possible that i could make this work?

<damo22>yes

<p4r4D0xum>damo22: is hurd-team the only one who works on rumpkernel?

<damo22>p4r4D0xum: rump is supposed to be maintained by netbsd

<damo22>we just periodically sync their source tree with a cleanup script

<damo22>but we have added patches that havent been upstreamed and there is a pci-userspace component that is separate

<paculino>How risky would it be to try to use pip for a python package in hurd? I assume it would probably still build

<sam_>i don't think it's risky in the slightest other than general issues with pip

<paculino>good to know, thank you

<paculino>I'll try it out later when procrastinating

<hwpplayer1>what is the best way to test various architecture tests for hurd development ? Still qemu ?

<nexussfan>Seems like the hurd libdrm port uses <mach/i386/ioccom.h>

<sneek>nexussfan, you have 1 message!

<sneek>nexussfan, jab says: I'm still planning on giving you the ip address of my new guix server, but the guy behind guix-hosting has not gotten back to me yet.

<nexussfan>sneek: later tell jab thanks.

<sneek>Got it.

<hwpplayer1>sneek: how to start porting hurd ?

<hwpplayer1>is sneek a bot ?

<star_sapphire>hwplayer1: yes

<hwpplayer1>how to start coding hurd for various architectures ?

<hwpplayer1>qemu ?

<hwpplayer1>It should be same as all others but I ask for here

<nexussfan>hwpplayer: i think you have to start by porting mach and mig

<hwpplayer1>Thanks nexussfan

<hwpplayer1>reading first

<Gooberpatrol66>hwpplayer1: solid_black did a port to arm, perhaps look at that code

<jab>this may not be a popular opinion...but a friend just recommended that you could ask an AI to code a hurd translator for you...and then explain it line by line how it works....I have not done this, btw.

<sneek>jab, you have 1 message!

<sneek>jab, nexussfan says: thanks.

<hwpplayer1>Gooberpatrol66: where is it in code base ?

<hwpplayer1>Do you please give a link

<Gooberpatrol66>i think it's all merged into master at this point? you can try to find it with git log

<hwpplayer1>okay

<hwpplayer1>I am gonna search

<hwpplayer1>I am busy at the moment trying to find some of my extra accounts

<hwpplayer1>Sergey Bugaev I see it Thanks Gooberpatrol66

<hwpplayer1>By the way this is Mert Gör mostly an Emacs user

<hwpplayer1>I live in İstanbul Türkiye

<Gooberpatrol66>cool

<Gooberpatrol66>the devs are quite multinational

<hwpplayer1>I want to focus on networking

<hwpplayer1>Because my project is all about internet/networking/cloud

<hwpplayer1>self-hosted or whatever

<hwpplayer1>brb

<nexussfan>jab: I hope one day go is ported to the hurd, so I can use rclone as a translator for hurd

<nexussfan>rclone mount uses fuse but i'm sure it can be updated to use hurd translators

<jab>nexussfan go is ported.

<jab>golang ...? is not I believe.

<jab>hwpplayer1 Sergey was working on 9p for the Hurd. As far as I know it was never finished, and he never posted the code for it...

<hwpplayer1>jab: I see but Google shows some results

<hwpplayer1>ai especially

<nexussfan>jab: yeah, golang

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