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<diegonc>anyone knows where the netdde source code is hosted?

<diegonc>I found it! it's in incubator repository

<gnucode>hmm, I'm not able to successfully git clone large repositories on real hardware.

<gnucode>I'm using rumpnet and pfinet. The connection speed seems to be maxed at 100 Kb/s.

<gnucode>well I've made a simple shield svg image. Maybe we could use it as the auth logo.

<jab>well my ethernet multiplexor logo is looking pretty good!

<gnucode>and I've made a fairly simple ftpfs translator.

<Gooberpatrol_66>cool!

<Gooberpatrol_66>i'm investigating rump

<jab>what have your discovered so far ?

<Gooberpatrol_66>questions

<Gooberpatrol_66>the way it's currently configured, is rumpdisk just the disk driver?

<Gooberpatrol_66>and say for usb rump would just be the usb stack?

<Gooberpatrol_66>or is it a fully featured netbsd kernel that's used for everything?

<Gooberpatrol_66>i ls rump /lib and it has libraries for every part of the kernel

<Gooberpatrol_66>using guix

<jab>Gooberpatrol_66: double check with someone who actually knows...

<Gooberpatrol_66>let's see

<jab>but I know there was some talk that originally, we would have one rump kernel that had all the various drivers in one process. So /dev/rumpdisk, /dev/rumpusbdisk, and /dev/rumpnet would all talk to the same rump process. That does make it much easier to get drivers everywhere now.

<jab>But the Hurd's design is to be multiserver. So instead of one rump server, Damien started compiling several different rump kernels. Each kernel only has certain drivers baked in.

<jab>So I believe that /dev/rumpdisk and /dev/rumpnet use 2 different rump processes.

<jab>When we start using /dev/zfs that'll be another rump process.

<damo22>no

<jab>I always get these things wrong. hahaha.

<damo22>rump drivers are unikernels with one purpose

<damo22>they are separate processes one per driver

<Gooberpatrol_66>so is the whole kernel built, but just one driver (+dependenices) is loaded and executed?

<damo22>the kernel drivers are compiled as separate libs

<damo22>and then each translator links to appropriate lib

<damo22>some are repeated

<jab>so is there only one rumpkernel running for all the various rump translators: rumpnet, rumpdisk ?

<damo22>no

<Gooberpatrol_66>no each driver is a separate process

<jab>ok, how is what I said different from what damo22 said ?

<jab>didn't we just say the same thing ?

<damo22>you started with the converse

<jab>fair enough.

<Gooberpatrol_66>ok thx

<jab>maybe for rumpdisk I'll made a disk image with BSD written on it. Looks like the NetBSD logo has various restrictions on when you use it.

<damo22>i dont think we need logos for every translator

<jab>it gives me something to do.

<jab>I suppose I could redirect my efforts to focus more on making the wiki mobile responsive.

<Gooberpatrol_66>wow that's cool

<Gooberpatrol_66>netbsd has something called codafs which is like nfs but with revision control? https://old.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/lkd2jh/has_anybody_had_experience_with_coda_filesystem/

<gnucode>wow.

<Gooberpatrol_66>zfs is listed as a netbsd fs but it is not in the rump libraries, perhaps more work is needed

<nexussfan>funny how we have to file a pr for the linux kernel to get the libdrm patches in for hurd xd

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