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<damo22>gnucode: you have to set some translators

<damo22>and enable usb controller in qemu

<gnucode>I tried "settrans /home/joshua /hurd/ext2fs /dev/ud0s1"

<damo22>what about /dev/rumpusb

<gnucode>I'm trying to use /hurd/rumpusbdisk to mount a usb stick.

<damo22>its like rumpdisk

<gnucode>we have a /dev/rumpusb ?

<damo22>should be

<gnucode>I thought we only hade /dev/rumpusbdisk....

<damo22>ok that

<gnucode>I'm just wanting to document the translator invocation so that I can use a usb stick on the Hurd in real hardware.

<gnucode>apparently usb cd disks should work too.

<nexussfan>yeah

<sneek>nexussfan, you have 2 messages!

<sneek>nexussfan, nexussfan says: set up lwip with rumpnet

<sneek>nexussfan, jab says: I've reached out to the guix-hosting.com guy. He's currently migrating my VPS from a commercial provider to his personal machine. It should have better RAM, disk space, etc. It'll be only ipv6 for a few weeks. I'll reach out when I can connect to it.

<gnucode>nexussfan: how's lwip working out for you?

<nexussfan>haven't tried it

<gnucode>slower faster same ?

<nexussfan>gonna do it today

<nexussfan>sneek: later tell jab alright.

<sneek>Got it.

<damo22>gnucode: -device qemu-xhci

<damo22>need to add that to qemu line

<gnucode>nexussfan: just in case you don't know I am gnucode too. :) when I'm gnucode, I'm using the hurd on real hardware. jab is when I am running openBSD.

<gnucode>damo22: I'm wanting to read a usb stick on real hardware. not use qemu.

<gnucode>is that possible ?

<damo22>yes

<damo22>that is just to get usb controller on qemu

<nexussfan>gnucode: oh, nice!

<gnucode>oh wait...

<damo22>if youre on real hw you already have a usb controller

<gnucode>I was trying to use ext2fs. my usb stick is using fat 32.

<gnucode>vfat.

<gnucode>cool. Let me try something like.

<gnucode>settrans -ac /home/joshua/mnt /hurd/fatfs /dev/ud0s1

<nexussfan>looks like darnassus.sceen.net is down?

<gnucode>AI bots are particularly murderous tonight!

<damo22>gnucode:

<gnucode>/hurd/fatfs: failed to open /dev/console: permission denied.

<damo22># showtrans /dev/ud0

<damo22>/hurd/storeio @/dev/usbdisk:sd0

<damo22># showtrans /dev/usbdisk

<damo22>/hurd/symlink rumpusbdisk

<Alicia>does hurd have a firewall type thing? I was thinking maybe my solution for dealing with the ai stealer bots could be useful, but it relies on banning them when detected in notable numbers

<nexussfan>iirc it does have a firewall translator

<gnucode>eth-filter is the hurd firewall.

<gnucode>it's not documented very well. It's on my todo list to document it.

<Alicia>ah :)

<gnucode>damo22 when I run those commands you just posted, I get the same output...

<damo22>gnucode: it might be that fatfs only works as root

<damo22>i dont know

<damo22>probably because it tries to open the console

<damo22>sounds like it might be a bug

<damo22>try mounting the stick as root

<gnucode>if you care to test it in real hardware...it's probably best to try to test it first before calling it a bug. I very much so could be running the command wrong...

<gnucode>trying now.

<gnucode>sudo settrans -ac /home/joshua/mnt /hurd/fatfs /dev/ud0s1

<gnucode>settrans: /hurd/fatfs: translator died.

<gnucode>I suppose that I could format the usb stick as ext2 and try again.

<nexussfan>Hmmm... when settrans the /servers/socket/2 and try to settrans 26, it says it's busy. when I try to settrans the 26 and then the 2, it says busy.

<damo22>try fdisk /dev/ud0

<nexussfan>Very annoying

<nexussfan>or for the 26 do i not need the `-4`?

<damo22>gnucode: are you able to read the partition table using fdisk?

<gnucode>sudo fdisk /dev/ud0 --> fdisk: cannot open /dev/ud0: No such device or address

<gnucode>the usb stick is in the computer.

<gnucode>but I may have plugged it into the computer after I booted.

<damo22>ok your rumpusbdisk translator is not running

<damo22>or may have stopped

<gnucode>possibly...

<damo22>ls /dev/rumpusbdisk

<damo22>see if you find an error in the log

<damo22>when it starts up

<gnucode>where's the log ? /var/log/dmesg ?

<gnucode>it's soo cool to see NetBSD in /var/log/dmesg ...

<nexussfan>and hurd crashed. nice :D

<gnucode>so I ran "ls /dev/rumpusbdisk"

<gnucode>nexussfan: it needed a nap.

<damo22>if the translator died it should print a new log when you trigger it with ls

<nexussfan>gnucode: maybe ;)

<damo22>showtrans /dev/ud0

<gnucode>/hurd/storeio @/dev/usbdisk:sd0

<damo22>ok that looks correct

<damo22>sudo mount -t fatfs /dev/ud0s1 /mnt

<gnucode>mount: cannot start translator /hurd/fatfs: Translator died.

<gnucode>and I ran it as root.

<damo22>ok you need to find the log of rumpusbdisk

<damo22>look up in the wiki how to set a translator up with logging to a file

<nexussfan>do i have to specify -a -g -m for lwip?

<nexussfan>> SIOCSIFBRDADDR failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device

<gnucode>nexussfan: I'm no expert, but you may need to use -fg "force go away"

<nexussfan>i did. then i did settrans -fgap /servers/socket/2 /hurd/lwip -i /dev/wm0

<damo22>nexussfan: maybe you are trying to set an invalid broadcast address as static ip?

<nexussfan>i'm using dhcp

<gnucode>nexussfan... I didn't know dhcp worked with lwip...maybe it does...

<nexussfan>not sure

<nexussfan>I also get "/hurd/lwip: Already closed: /dev/wm0"

<gnucode>nexussfan: have you tried pouring water on it?

<nexussfan>not yet ;)

<nexussfan>weird, i can ping my gateway but not something like 1.1.1.1

<Alicia>that can happen if you don't have a default route to know to send it to the gateway

<nexussfan>Yeah my ping is saying "Destination Net Unreachable"

<nexussfan>switched back to pfinet

<nexussfan>i wonder when mesa will get to the debian/hurd repos

<nexussfan>__hurd__ is also defined as well?

<nexussfan>turns out xorg/xlibre uses it

<nexussfan>the correct one is __GNU__ right?

<nexussfan>yeah

<damo22>well done sobkas, your mesa changes were merged! i guess it happened a while ago

<nexussfan>i know it's nice

<nexussfan>now to get it into the debian/hurd repos

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