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<gnucode>well I compiled netsurf, and it seems to work!
<gnucode>so, I guess I'll mess with this more tomorrow!
<tux0r>glad to have helped
<tux0r>i admit that dillo has its perks, but i'm more into netsurf - it works on more systems :D
<damo22>youpi: youre right, there was a 16 byte access required that was not working
<damo22>to obtain 16 byte offset, it was written like CX(CX( which gives 4*4*CPU
<damo22>so i fixed that and added a comment
<tux0r>g'night everyone
<gnucode>morning friends!
<gnucode>weird, my compiled netsurf is taking a really long time to start....
<gnucode>and it still hasn't started... so weird.
<gnucode>weird. I have to try to run the program a few times before it starts...
<gnucode>well I got gnus to work on the Hurd, but man is it slow! I should really try to learn how to use mu4e.
<gnucode>I guess in a bit, I'm going to try to use inkscape and maybe libreoffice.
<gnucode>wow inkscape works! looks like gimp is not installable. Though there is a lot of gimp-help-*language* files. So probably could be ported.
<gnucode>libreoffice is not installable either, but there is libreoffice-help packages.
<tux0r>mu4e is easy...ish
<tux0r>depends on what you use to sync your folders.
<tux0r>and, of course, on how many accounts you use
<tux0r>mu4e is my mail client on macos with 7 accounts and it was a mess, but i love it :D
<gnucode>I'm just going to be using the one account. I mainly want to be able to edit the Hurd wiki entirely on the Hurd.
<gnucode>I've sent in quite a few patches today, because editing the wiki is kind of a hobby for me. It's busy work that makes me feel like I'm contributing. :)
<azeem>gnucode: with "not installable", do you mean the (main) packages exist but you get an error when you try to install them, or that they don't exist so you can't install them?
<azeem>those help packages are architecture-independent and so always around
<gnucode>I'm actually working on improving this page: https://hurdos.com/wiki/open_issues/translators_set_up_by_untrusted_users.html I've thought of a derived prank where one attaches a netfs based translator that creates a dynamically populated and infinite recurisive directory structure, where each directory is essentially the same as the one above it. Each directory would have a few files with a .hidden directry to points to the same
<gnucode>directory, to infinity and beyond.
<gnucode>The prank is convincing your friend to copy the files in this crafty directory. Someone has inadveratly created many copies of the same file.
<gnucode>azeem: sudo apt install gimp -> Error: package gimp has no installation candidate.
<azeem>ok
<gnucode>interesting, /hurd/ftpfs runs as root.
<gnucode>in the irc log here: https://hurdos.com/wiki/open_issues/translators_set_up_by_untrusted_users.html youpi seems to hint that he wishes ftpfs would not run as root.
<gnucode>I guess it would be cool, following principle of least authority, to use the least authorized used to run tasks.
<gnucode>here's what I was working on the last hour or so. This was actually kind of fun to write: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/254e35f6 feedback welcome. I've got more things that I want to say, so I might email this in tomorrow.
<gnucode>night all.
<gnucode>oh I just bought 2 or 3 more T420. I'm planning on selling them for $150 - $200. If anyone wants a Hurd laptop with an 250GB SSD, > 8 GB of RAM, that can run i3, xfce, emacs, netsurf, etc. Let me know!
<youpi>ftpfs runs as whatever the underlying node owner is
<youpi>if any tutorial makes people set ftpfs without changing the underlying node owner, it should be fixed