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<freem>Hi. I have a question that I could not find the answer of. Does the GNU/Hurd operating system (so, kernel+basic utilities) relies on PAM (pluggable auth modules IIRC?) or something else (i.e. bsdauth from openbsd, or whatever plan9 used)?
<kilobug>hi freem in theory you can do it however you want, the Hurd doesn't impose that, but in practice what exists today is Debian GNU/Hurd so basically uses most of Debian, so pam
<freem>ok, thanks
<freem>yes, I know that theory says anything can be used, hurd is just the kernel, and the GNU utilities are used on openbsd with bsdauth. I wanted to know the in-practice situation, which you answered nicely. Thanks.
<jab>morning friends! I'm going to update the developers page on the wiki and probably mention that one can flash a hurd vm image to a disk, and then boot that disk.
<jab>That was probably the easiest way to install the Hurd.
<jab>Also, is anybody using the Hurd on a T420 ? Do you have to use rumpnet for ethernet ?
<jab>well gerr, I'm having trouble editing via the wiki webpages. darnasses is a little slow.
<jab>silly ai bots.
<rrq>jab: I've also made this (linux) bash script that prepares a hurd-amd64 bootable disk image file (for qemu) using crosshurd taking current sid packages. I'm not sure where would be a sensible place to make that available tot he community.
<rrq>currently as git project https://git.rrq.selfhost.au/git/rrq/prep-hurd-image.git
<youpi>the crosshurd debian package, probably?
<sneek>Welcome back youpi, you have 3 messages!
<sneek>youpi, jab says: hey samuel the amd64 README is slightly in correct in the losetup line.
<sneek>youpi, jab says: this is what I used that worked: " sudo losetup -o $((512*1955840)) /dev/loop0 debian-hurd*.img "
<sneek>youpi, jab says: actually I couldn't figure it out. I do know that the 1953792 value that the README mentions here is incorrect. https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/latest/hurd-amd64/YES_REALLY_README.txt
<rrq>ok. I'll try to follow up on that (I'm not a DD myself)
<youpi>but you can make merge requests on salsa
<rrq>from a separate git store, or I need an account?
<youpi>you can create a guest account there
<rrq>thanks.
<jab>so git send-email and git format-patch keeps inserting my email address as Ikiwiki <ikiwiki.info> ...
<jab>git config user.email returns my email address...
<jab>anybody have any idea what i'm doing wrong ?
<jab>I've modified $web-src/.git/config so that "user" and "email" are mine and yet the problem persists.
<rrq>is there a ~/.gitconfig ?