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<damo22>phodius_: on an smp enabled system you can just run "smp /bin/bash"

<damo22>and then that terminal will have the other cores instead

<phodius_>ah i see thanks

<ArneBab>Gooberpatrol66: thank you for the info!

<jab>can someone give me an overview of the mesa situation with the Hurd ? Was mesa not compiling on the Hurd in the past ?

<nexussfan>mesa doesn't exist on hurd as of now afaik

<nexussfan>that's why you can't play opengl games on hurd like fb

<phodius_>mesa work with this patch just not accelerated needed by games

<nexussfan>accelerated?

<nexussfan>i mean fb and stella require SDL not sure if that works on hurd after the mesa porting

<nexussfan>if you want you can check

<phodius_>so i have to compile gnu hurd with SMP support to enable the extra cores is that correct?

<damo22>phodius_: no, in debian hurd there is a gnumach-smp kernel available

<damo22>i am working on getting the x86_64 version working

<phodius_>this gnumach-smp kernel in debain seems to be mixing up hd0 with wd0

<nexussfan>sdl is used by too many things, and it relies on opengl

<nexussfan>not sure if there's a way to use sdl2/3 without opengl

<damo22>phodius_: the boot sequence depends on grub.cfg

<azeem>anybody know whether there are dbgsym packages somewhere for the Debian 2025 hurd-amd64 release?

<azeem>hrm, using the Postgres Debian packages from the 2025 release, I can't reload the server as the postgres user

<azeem>postgres@debian:~$ LANG=C kill -s HUP $(head -1 17/main/postmaster.pid)

<azeem>-bash: kill: (28649) - Operation not permitted

<damo22>azeem: who is the owner of the process?

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