IRC channel logs

<phodius>what about -Dgallium-drivers=

<phodius>it definitely not zink lol

<phodius>i will try swrast or llvmpipe

<phodius>infact there no swrast softpipe it is then.........

<damo22>maybe check the patches

<gnu_srs2>phodius: The patches for Debian mesa experimental, 25.3.3-1, are at https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2026-01/msg00226.html

<phodius>cheers, ive actually got it compiling just waiting i should have really set the cpu to more cores, takes such a long time....

<azert>should we rename ext2fs to extfs after the journaling patches gets in?

<azert>ext2 on Linux never got journaling implemented. That’s in fact the only difference between ext2 and ext3

<azert>Hurd ext2 file systems will eventually be not compatible with Linux ext2 by default. Only with Linux ext4

<janneke>is arch hurd still a thing?

<janneke> https://archhurd.org shows 2018, or 2019 as latest sign of life?

<ArneBab>does someone have the rump audio translator working in qemu? Along with USB (for keyboards) and Emacs that would suffice to have a system for productive work.

<ArneBab>Small celebration: 12 years ago we identified the blockers for our use.¹ I think all but "tested on modern machines" are resolved! https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/community/weblogs/ArneBab/what_we_need.html

<ArneBab>(not all perfectly convenient, but all possible)

<ArneBab>🎆

<ArneBab>⇒ you’re awesome!

<Pellescours>janneke: yes, I'm tryinh to bootstrap the image but I'm currently waiting for m4 to release (gnulib compilation failure In 1.20)

<Pellescours>for the runs on real hardware, currently we knows that it works for some thinkpads laptop. But if we want to run it on a desktop, the keyboards and mouse are mostly USB today. Does someone though how to make these devices working?

<Gooberpatrol66>janneke: it's dead for now, z3ntu maintained it

<Gooberpatrol66>ArneBab: there was a demo sound device for mpv, i dont' think it has advanced beyond that

<phodius>how do i have more than 1 core and i still cant get mesa to compile it has errors undefined mesa_fogfv etc

<gnu_srs2>phodius: did you apply the patches at the bug-hurd ML?

<phodius>i applied the 39277.patch

<phodius>is it all the patches ?

<azert>the problem with usb such as keyboard and mouse is that one could be tempted to compile them in rumpusbdisk, but reality is that we need

<azert>to split the stack

<azert>keyboard and mouse should be in the console, or in a dedicated hid input translator

<phodius>gnu_srs2 im trying with minimal options ie meson setup build /home/mesa --prefix=/usr -Dglx=disabled -Degl=disabled -Dplatforms=x11 -Dgallium-drivers=softpipe -Dvulkan-drivers=

<azert>same thing for usb audio drivers

<phodius>well trying it out now

<phodius>azert would you know how i can get more than 1 core activated?

<azert>yes

<azert>there was a small c software called smp.c that was changing cpu group and could be used to lunch a shell

<azert>let me search for that

<azert> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2024-02/msg00088.html

<azert>phodius over here

<gnu_srs2>phodius: Look at the bug-hurd ML: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2026-01/msg00226.html

<janneke>Gooberpatrol66: ok, thanks

<phodius>oh it has a patch for libglx-mesa0.symbols.hurd

<gnu_srs2>and msg00250.html, msg00263.html. Are you running i386 or amd64?

<phodius>i386 thought it would be more stable

IRC channel logs

2026-02-06.log