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<saravia>question, hurd is not stable too in virtual machines? <azert>are you sure it’s not a “skills issue”? Patches are welcome <saravia>azert: what kind of task are you doing with hurd? <azert>I could do it on macos of course, and I do that for work. But I like free software <saravia>azert: yeah! free software is the best... and how run emacs in it? without differences with linux? ...or in hurd has a especial way to run? <erc_develop>question friends... someone know if emacs has a special way to run inside a hurd environment O.S. <kilobug>erc_develop: GNU Emacs runs natively on GNU/Hurd (both the text and the X11 frontend), but I'm not sure what you mean with "special way" <erc_develop>kilobug: and you say "natively" for any difference on linux? in linux not run natively too? <erc_develop>special way rathen than linux... for example run more fast... or something <erc_develop>in another words... hurd if it has adventages... what are... in the case which hurd can run <erc_develop>but to user level experience... because i can read the hurd page and find something but it is not the same who user test <azert>erc_develop: I don’t think at this point the Hurd has been designed to provide any advantage over Linux, although it has the potential to deliver in the long run (see Xenon paradox). Anyhow I can name a few <azert>he came here to drop his little poopy and he left <azert>that limit doesn’t exist on the Hurd <azert>following the GNU coding standards that abject artificial limits <azert>as such, the path length is limited only by the memory in the system, and a few remaining issues in the rpc layer that will eventually be solved some decades down the road <azert>another real advantage of the Hurd right now is that it runs on a micro kernel , that allows services virtualization to a level that Linux only wishes to achieve <kilobug>there are many other neat little things, like you can dynamically grant new groups (or even uids) to a running process <kilobug>overall it's a much more flexible design that allows countless improvements, but it's still more in a "proof of concept" stage than in a "really usable" stage, which is sad after all those years... <azert>positive thing is that things keep moving <azert>that’s why I mentioned Zeno’s paradox <azert>I doubt that the Hurd will ever catch up with Linux <azert>In regards to emacs, due to what kilobug said, you can make it root and drop privileges while using it, that’s a big usability difference <jab>erc_deve`: also I would recommend that you run Emacs in X. In my limited experience, Emacs worked better for me inside X. <jab>running emacs in the hurd-console was just not as stable. <azert>that’s a bug that needs fixing.. the hurd-console sometimes hangs <erc_deve`>nice points friends, so, the minimal require for a real hardware is have ext2 and x32 MBR-LEGACY option? <jab>erc_develop: I've never heard of it before. <jab>seems fairly cool sure.