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<sneek>Welcome back nexussfan, you have 2 messages!

<sneek>nexussfan, jab says: The T510 I can't get the Hurd to install because the keyboard is broke. The enter key does not work. So I cannot make it through the hurd installer. My T400 is librebooted. So graphics does not work. I could probably install the "text installer", which is the mach console, but I don't think I've tried that yet.

<sneek>nexussfan, jab says: solid_black has an idea for making a hurd based container image called "sandman" I think. It probably has some code or at least a design, but you'd have to ask him.

<divya>Can I run Hurd on T440p? Preferably after librebooting it?

<divya>Hey nexussfan glad to see you here.

<nexussfan>;)

<nexussfan>sneek: later tell jab You can use the qemu image and put it onto the disk. Text installer works well. I'd like to see this hurd container image, as well!

<sneek>Got it.

<divya>Which OS do you run on Hurd nexussfan?

<divya>I'd like to run my current one: Guix

<nexussfan>I use Debian GNU/Hurd

<nexussfan>There is Guix for Hurd, but I haven't tried it

<divya>Yeah I know janneke has been taking care of Guix for Hurd.

<damo22>guix does not run on top of hurd afaik, hurd runs under a vm on guix called a childhurd

<nexussfan>isn't there a Guix gnu/hurd port?

<Gooberpatrol66>there's a vm image, no bare metal image

<Gooberpatrol66>i think xorg wont work on hurd with libreboot

<nexussfan>oh. well still there's an official guix port to gnu/hurd

<damo22>not exactly...

<janneke>divya: => https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2024/hurd-on-thinkpad/

<janneke>Guix can run on the Hurd, but it's still experimental and not supported

<janneke>also, we're still working on installing the 64bit version

<divya>Right.

<divya>Can the 32bit version run on anything other than X60?

<janneke>it can run in a vm, of course, but i haven't got any positive report for another machine yet

<janneke>(that's for the guix version, we haven't been able to update to the latest release yet, and also don't have rumpnet just yet)

<jab>divya: heyo, you can run the Hurd on librebooted laptops, but you can't run X at the moment.

<sneek>Welcome back jab, you have 1 message!

<sneek>jab, nexussfan says: You can use the qemu image and put it onto the disk. Text installer works well. I'd like to see this hurd container image, as well!

<Darelelve>Hey everyone! When will the cross-hurd repository be able to accept my pull requests? The rumpkernel build won't work unless I pass the missing flags. Also, I apologize for the error in the first commit for compile.sh; this is the first time I've pushed changes to someone else's repository...

<youpi>? I don't see a pull request on the crosshurd repository

<Darelelve>I sent them just recently.

<youpi>np with the compile.sh commit, it would have been completely fine if the crossbuild support was already upstream (and we should really submit it there)

<youpi>Darelelve: I mean I don't see it now

<youpi>which repository are you talking about exactly?

<Darelelve>youpi: https://github.com/flavioc/cross-hurd/

<youpi>ah

<youpi>then it's up to flavioc

<youpi>also, these pull requests are not even a couple hour old

<youpi>remember that people are on their free time

<youpi>which means easily days of latency, since people have a life outside free software too :)

<Darelelve>I'm not in a hurry, I just want everything to work as soon as possible :]

<Darelelve>And another question, on Savannah do I need to join the "The GNU Hurd" group to develop for Mach and Hurd?

<azeem>No, you can just send in pull requests to bug-hurd

<azeem>eh, patches

<Darelelve>So, there is no need to register on Savannah?

<jab>Darelelve: no need to register on Savannah unless you want to close savannah bug reports.

<jab>use git send-email

<jab>this will get you started: https://git-send-email.io/

<gnu_srs>Another amd64 bug: scp ...; setsockopt socket 3 IP_TOS 184: Operation not permitted

<etno>[latest debian amd64] Reading /proc/x/stat of some processes (a python3 instance) is blocking. Does this ring a bell to someone before I dig further ?

<etno>Well, that python process had a PID much higher than the others. I couldn't attach gdb successfully to procfs, it would not interrupt on any signal. Then had to reboot and could not reproduce the issue afterwards.

<jab>etno: grrr :)

<etno>While one process is blocked this way, /proc/vmstats shows about 1000 page faults per second. I added swap but it didn't have any positive effect.

<etno>I will try to run the latest off git.

<origami>what operating system is using Hurd?

<youpi>Hurd

<youpi>(probably you need to be more precise in what you mean by "operating system")

<origami>fr, I'm still confused about hurt, I have search about it first

<origami>Hurd*

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