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<damo22>opencontainers is a linux thing, it expects a linux kernel to be running <damo22>its monolithic by design, i dont think hurd would work with that <yang>nexussfan: do you have T400/T510 and also any other 64bit compatible with hurd? <yang>nexussfan: I am trying to build a list of hurd-compatible thinkpads <yang>currently I only have X201 <damo22>yang: please wait for the latest changes to be released in debian because there are some critical IRQ changes coming <damo22>you may find a lot more thinkpads will work soon <yang>But I guess the working ones, are mostly at most Core2Duo based? <damo22>with our changes, i was able to boot on w530 <yang>Released in June, 2012, the W530 has a very similar exterior appearance to the prior W models. <Noisytoot>I have an X200 (penryn), T440p (haswell), and T480s (kaby lake refresh) <damo22>they should all work soon i think <damo22>the IRQ detection was broken before <Noisytoot>T480s I think requires xHCI support for USB to work, since they dropped the EHCI controller in skylake <yang>I have orderd a docking station for X200, it only costs 5 € <yang>X200/X201 should be compatible <yang>IMHO the older Thinkpads seem to have tough keyboards, you gotta press harder, not my favourite choice <nexussfan>yang: I don't have a T400/T510, I only have a T420 running AMD64 Hurd <damo22>yang: the docking station should have a serial port <damo22>that will be handy for debugging <yang>Are there instructions about how to make it work in qemu? <yang>how to install hurd there <yang>I still need to setup Qemu <yang>I guess I will use a SBC board ARM64 to run qemu on it <yang>(until I try it on a Thinkpad hardware) <Noisytoot>damo22: X200 UltraBase does not have a serial port <gnu_srs>Serial output works now: Problem was that /boot/grub/grub.cfg was writable. <gnu_srs>Now OK: ls -l /boot/grub/grub.cfg; -r-------- 1 root root 9717 Oct 29 10:05 /boot/grub/grub.cfg <damo22>gnu_srs: put GRUB_TERMINAL=console into /etc/default/grub and update-grub <gnu_srs>Another bug: cat /etc/fstab: /dev/cd0 /media/cdrom0 iso9660 noauto 0 0. <gnu_srs>Booting reports several times: [ 8.5800050] cd0: dos partition I/O error; Unable to get block size. <gnu_srs>damo22: tks, will do that next time I need serial output. <damo22>you need that in grub.cfg as well <damo22>the other one just makes the gfx part not display <gnu_srs>Another bug: cat /etc/fstab: /dev/cd0 /media/cdrom0 iso9660 noauto 0 0. <gnu_srs>Booting reports several times: [ 8.5800050] cd0: dos partition I/O error; Unable to get block size. <gnu_srs>Serial output works now: Problem was that /boot/grub/grub.cfg was writable. <youpi>do you actually have an iso image given as CD? <jab>sneek later tell nexussfan The T510 I can't get the Hurd to install because the keyboard is broke. The enter key does not work. So I cannot make it through the hurd installer. My T400 is librebooted. So graphics does not work. I could probably install the "text installer", which is the mach console, but I don't think I've tried that yet. <sneek>Welcome back jab, you have 1 message! <sneek>jab, nexussfan says: Nice article about hurd, X isn't too slow on my T420. What troubles do you have with hurd on a T400/T510? I seemed to install it fine <gnu_srs>youpi: The netinst installer created that line for fstab. <gnu_srs>debian-hurd-2025-amd64-NETINST-1.iso <jab>sneek: later tell nexussfan solid_black has an idea for making a hurd based container image called "sandman" I think. It probably has some code or at least a design, but you'd have to ask him. <p4r4D0xum>jab: it's not a laptop, it's a desktop, not sure which exact model, but with i7 2600 and sandy bridge