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<untrusem>So I was having a conversation about micro kernels and obviously I mentioned hurd, and someone told me about fuchsia by goggle, and also asked the question

<untrusem>>also: what is going on with Hurd driver-wise even? the hw support seems to be very poor

<untrusem>I am not knowledgeable enough about hurd to answer this so I told it I would ask in irc and tell it

<identity>the problem with Hurd is that the only reason stopping it from supporting your hardware is *just* the lack of volunteers

<untrusem>ohh, conveyed the message

<listentolist>How many people are currently working on Hurd? How many full-time developers are needed to get to 1.0 in let's say two years?

<youpi>please read the faq

<listentolist>The FAQ page was last edited in 2016. I thought it might be different now. Okay, but I got the answer.

<youpi>see the topic for the url of the faq

<youpi>with the latest changes

<youpi>note that the date of the front page doesn't reflect the date of the pages themselves

<listentolist>youpi: Thanks.

<yelninei>Hi, how would I start debugging a hang in subshells on 64 bit hurds. This seems to work on debian hurd64

<yelninei>I can trigger it reliably with a file with missing shebang or a shebang to a missing file.

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