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<nexussfan>sneek: later tell azert i was not able to reproduce it on my amd64 hurd host
<sneek>Welcome back nexussfan, you have 1 message!
<sneek>nexussfan, gnucode says: The Hurd doesn't have a live option yet. Like Samual would say, "Patches welcome."
<sneek>Will do.
<nexussfan>sneek: later tell gnucode Live hurd may be possible, but probably not on USB because there's really bad support for usb on hurd
<sneek>Will do.
<damo22>nexussfan: what are you talking about? if there is a problem with usb it can be fixed, patches welcome
<nexussfan>damo22: well rumpusbdisk doesn't really work on my host, but i don't use usb anyway on that device so it's ok
<nexussfan>it tries to do usb but times out
<damo22>if you find a bug, report it on savannah bug tracking
<damo22>"it doesnt work" isnt a bug report too
<azeem>how is gnumach(?) computing the total memory? I don't have swap enabled, and I noticed the first column of free(1) changes its values (slightly on hurd-i386 but noticably on hurd-amd64), is that expected?
<damo22>it reserves some for gnumach
<damo22>the rest is allocated to the system
<azeem>so "total memory" in free is what is allocated to the system?
<azeem>ok
<youpi>iirc it's something like this yes
<azeem>I've noticed some kind of memory leak between Postgres buildfarm runs on hurd-amd64, total memory goes down by around 7MB and available memory by around 14MB per run, but I haven't really traced it scientifically
<azeem>(would be nice if sysstat worked, so one could sar)
<Gooberpatrol66>I found out that guix already supports 64 bit childhurd vm, which is cool
<Gooberpatrol66> https://codeberg.org/guix/guix/pulls/2329
<Gooberpatrol66>seems not to boot on my machine though for some reason