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<diegonc>lwip has a few warnings related to ` enum/integer mismatch` between kern_return_t and error_t <diegonc>I'm not sure they would be worth fixing. the error_t definition says the enum allows gdb printing its name. so the easiest fix of switching to kern_return_t in RPC implementations would make debugging harder AIUI <damo22>i think Michael K figured out what was wrong with acpi_init.c <damo22>i didnt realise there was a hard wired INTx pin per device, and you have to match that to the table <damo22>so while PCI_INTERRUPT_LINE is not trustworthy in the config space, you still need PCI_INTERRUPT_PIN to discover the true value from ACPI tables <darwin>i want to try HURD again. I did in '0s or 2010s... but am not a fan of some non-UNIX-like ways Debian does things (forced passwords, systemd, no standardised uid:gid). I like *BSD/OpenSolaris/Illumos, Slackware, and that's about it... Gentoo with non-split-usr and now not having to compile everything was okay, and Artix or Obarun sound sort of okay... how likely does it look the other HURD options are coming back, like there was a Gentoo and/or Arch one <gnucode>darwin, at the moment I would recommend the 32bit Debian GNU/Hurd. It is the only Hurd distro that a casual user could daily drive. emacs, basic window manager (ice-wm or Xfce), simple web browser (netsurf), working ethernet, etc. <gnucode>I would recommend buying a T60 or T400. Do not install libreboot if you want to run X. <gnucode>I used the Hurd as my daily driver for a bit, but I sold that laptop. My next Hurd laptop is probably going to be a T60. Maybe in 6 months to a year, I will start recommending the 64 bit version, but right now the 64 bit version cannot connect to the internet. <darwin>i meant Gentoo with split-usr of course <nexussfan>gnucode: once the 64-bit version of hurd has ethernet i'll probably daily drive it :P <gnucode>nexussfan: let me know when you have that happening! I can almost pretty much daily drive the 32 version of the Hurd. But I can't do my banking, listen to music, watch movies...BUT using the Hurd does help you get work done... <gnucode>also I really need to get ikiwiki installed on my OpenBSD server. It would be nice to have another up to date wiki that anyone can check out. <gnucode>actually...since github allows one to host a static website for free....I think...I wonder if they would let us host the hurd wiki up there for free ? <nexussfan>gnucode: yeah, the current hurd wiki really doesn't work well. i wonder why they can't use gnu's servers? <nexussfan>gnucode: what browser do you use? surf is the only amd64 one that works afaik <azert>will rumpnet support the rtwn netbsd realtek WiFi drivers? <azert>would be nice to support the usb dongle version, that gets sold for 20 cents on the internet <azert>but I guess that needs the usb stack split <nexussfan>azert: I'm just waiting until rumpnet even supports 64 bits <gnucode>nexussfan: gnu's servers use cvs I believe. That's why the wiki there is sporatically updated. <gnucode>I personally use netsurf on the hurd. I have to compile from source and define PATH_MAX <gnucode>There are some slightly better browsers that will run on the Hurd, but you have to compile them yourself. They are not packaged.