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<Pellescours>no, he just wrote in the wrong channel
<Pellescours>(or window)
<ZhaoM>so I just installed a new hurd with 20230608 debian image and compile the latest gnumach from the repo with --disable-linux-group, --enable-apic
<ZhaoM>so I can boot up with rump
<ZhaoM>but when I tried to poweroff there are' wd0d: device timeout writing fsbn...'
<ZhaoM>Did I miss anything?
<damo22>thats strange
<damo22>2023??
<ZhaoM>I have updated after the installation
<ZhaoM>gnumach-image-1.8-486-up/unstable,now 2:1.8+git20250304-1 hurd-i386 [installed,automatic]
<ZhaoM>hurd/unstable,now 1:0.9.git20250304-3 hurd-i386 [installed]
<ZhaoM>2023 because I think the latest *tested* image is 20230608
<youpi>sneek: later tell ZhaoM the images on https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/latest/hurd-i386/ are tested too, and way more recent
<sneek>Got it.
<ZhaoM>hi
<sneek>Welcome back ZhaoM, you have 1 message!
<sneek>ZhaoM, youpi says: the images on https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/latest/hurd-i386/ are tested too, and way more recent
<ZhaoM>youpi: yeah I used this one to install the hurd https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/latest/hurd-i386/current/debian-sid-hurd-i386-NETINST-1.iso
<p4r4D0xum>hello, I just noticed that my hurd installation has sources.lst from 2023
<p4r4D0xum>I've changed them to debian-ports unstable unrealeased
<p4r4D0xum>although I get gpg error while updating the list
<ZhaoM>p4r4D0xum: update, install or upgrade debian-ports-archive-keyring, then update again
<p4r4D0xum> ZhaoM: Trying to import missing key first
<p4r4D0xum>while updating apt exits
<ZhaoM>how about adding '[trusted=yes]' in sources.list
<ZhaoM>remove them after finish the upgrade
<ZhaoM>see https://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install 'Installing More Packages"
<p4r4D0xum>debian unstable seems to be a problem tried to add missing key via apt-key but got an error as well
<p4r4D0xum>but with trusted=yes ... I still get an error
<p4r4D0xum>although I can update something... before that nothing seems to be updateable
<ZhaoM>you have updated something
<p4r4D0xum>s/updateable/updatable
<ZhaoM>now upgrade debian-ports-archive-keyring
<p4r4D0xum>i've installed debian-keyring as well, was that a mistake?
<ZhaoM>not sure
<ZhaoM>but I know upgrading debian-ports-archive-keyring is important
<ZhaoM>check the debian-ports-archive-keyring after the upgrade
<ZhaoM>the version should be something like 2025XXXX
<p4r4D0xum>ZhaoM: btw. do you use qemu for you hurd?
<ZhaoM>yes, for the hurd development, but I also have a T60
<p4r4D0xum>ZhaoM: like you, I tried to purchase T60 but with no luck
<p4r4D0xum>there use to be a curses option the qemu but I couldn't find it in a main page...
<ZhaoM>I used -display curses -vga std
<p4r4D0xum>oooh nice
<ZhaoM>There are some other Thinkpad that can run Hurd
<ZhaoM> https://darnassus.sceen.net/~hurd-web/faq/drivers/
<p4r4D0xum>ZhaoM: debian-ports-archive-keyring is from 2023 and cant be updated.
<ZhaoM>what's the exact version of debian-ports-archive-keyring
<p4r4D0xum>2023.02.01
<ZhaoM>go back to 20230606T000000Z in the sources.list
<p4r4D0xum>ZhaoM: Just add it or comment something?
<ZhaoM>upgrade debian-ports-archive-keyring in 2023 before moving to deb.debian.org
<ZhaoM> https://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install
<ZhaoM>Under the section "Installing More Packages "
<p4r4D0xum>ZhaoM: So comment all, add 2023 packages and update?
<ZhaoM>yes
<ZhaoM>and upgrade debian-ports-archive-keyring
<p4r4D0xum> ZhaoM: nothing is updating I get again errors about expkeysig
<ZhaoM>ok, then switch to 'http://deb.debian.org' with [trusted=yes]
<ZhaoM>paste the output of 'apt upgrade debian-ports-archive-keyring'
<p4r4D0xum> ZhaoM: It seems to work, it updates the whole system including debian-ports-archive-keyring
<ZhaoM>\o/
<p4r4D0xum>\o\
<p4r4D0xum>/o/
<ZhaoM>it shows that my memory is not too bad
<p4r4D0xum>\o/
<ZhaoM>have fun with hurd :)
<p4r4D0xum>ZhaoM: I want to move it to my old medion tower
<p4r4D0xum>it's the only pc in my junkyard, hurds works on without major issues
<p4r4D0xum>tried it on a dell latitute without success
<p4r4D0xum>anybody know how to fix out of range error on my display? After boot?
<Pellescours>I understand the difficulties of keeping hurd working (and compiling with all software changes) https://github.com/shadow-maint/shadow/commit/f50a39e8f9a00c1c2b6b26a80448d510c56353bb and hurd does not have this header