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<damo22>youpi: i dont have it booted to check, it may be

<Gooberpatrol66>Ribby: arch hurd is unmaintained

<damo22>youpi: the packages i built for gcc-6 seem to be uninstallable due to missing dependencies but they mostly work with dpkg -i --force-depends

<damo22>but then the system is broken

<damo22> https://paste.debian.net/plainh/724b1cf4

<damo22>no the ecj.jar seems missing

<damo22>i think that is what ecj package is for

<damo22>* f7fda9d Stopping building ecj, which is now made from eclipse-jdt-core

<damo22>maybe we should look at the latter package?

<youpi>damo22: which version are you installing?

<youpi>use at least version -2

<youpi>+hurd.2 I mean

<youpi>and +hurd.3 has the addition of ecj1

<damo22>i was installing ecj debian/3.11.1-2 because that was the last one where -gcj packages were not removed

<youpi>you don't need ecj

<youpi>it's built by gcc-6

<damo22>ok

<damo22>i branched off gcc-6-debian branch

<damo22>for gcc

<damo22>* 7996f9bb (HEAD -> hurd-gcc-6-debian-gcj, zam/hurd-gcc-6-debian-gcj) HACK to compile gcc-6 on GNU/Hurd to provide gcj

<damo22>* 415d8a21 (origin/gcc-6-debian, gcc-6-debian) * Don't configure native builds with --with-sysroot. Apparently this cannot be completely overridden with the command line option --sysroot.

<damo22>gcc-6.5.0-2 is the last tag

<damo22>i dont see any +hurd tags

<youpi>I don't have commit access to debian's gcc tree

<youpi>it's uploaded to unreleased

<damo22>ohh

<youpi> http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports/pool-hurd-i386/main/g/gcc-6/

<damo22>wow you built it alread

<damo22>y

<youpi>+hurd.3 will show up there within an hour or so

<damo22>\o/

<damo22>$ dpkg -S ecj.jar

<damo22>libecj-java: /usr/share/java/eclipse-ecj.jar

<damo22>libecj-java: /usr/share/java/ecj.jar

<damo22>with your packages

<youpi>$ dpkg -S ecj.jar

<youpi>libecj-java: /usr/share/java/eclipse-ecj.jar

<youpi>libecj-java: /usr/share/java/ecj.jar

<youpi>gcj-6: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-gcj-6-hurd-amd64/lib/ecj.jar

<damo22>but the ecj1 script is missing as you said

<youpi>with +hurd.3

<damo22>okay

<damo22>hmm gij-6 is also missing with+hurd.2

<youpi>$ gij-6

<youpi>Usage: gij [OPTION] ... CLASS [ARGS] ...

<youpi>apparently fine with hurd.3

<damo22>ok thanks

<damo22>with hurd.3 we should be able to bootstrap openjdk8 i guess

<youpi>I have put the +hurd.3 packages on https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/hurd-i386/

<youpi>there are also some defaul-jdk/jre packages in unreleased

<damo22>are they sources for openjdk?

<youpi>you can grab some from snapshot.debian.org

<damo22> https://salsa.debian.org/java-team/openjdk-8 might be useful

<damo22>it has rules to build with gcj

<damo22>$ gcj-6 -c main.java

<damo22>Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.batch.GCCMain

<damo22> at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj_bc.so.1)

<damo22>Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.batch.GCCMain not found in gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader{urls=[file:/usr/share/java/eclipse-ecj.jar], parent=gnu.gcj.runtime.ExtensionClassLoader{urls=[], parent=null}}

<damo22>i think libgcj_bc.so is supposed to be a symlink to a different library?

<damo22>i think they renamed the main class in ecj?

<damo22>the ecj jar does not have the right version of Main class

<damo22>libecj-java: /usr/share/java/eclipse-ecj.jar this file seems not compiled using gcj-6

<damo22>there is a maintainers version of the jar on ftp.gnu.rg

<damo22>there is a script in contrib/download_ecj for gcc-6

<damo22>sourceware.org actually

<lockywolf_>How is x86_64 support in Hurd?

<ZhaoM> https://darnassus.sceen.net/~hurd-web/open_issues/64-bit_port/

<ZhaoM>I don't know much about it, some main contributors are not here due to timezone

<ZhaoM>I believe you will get a reply after a few hours

<ZhaoM>lockywolf_: and you can see some entries about 64bit support in the TODO list https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/hurd/web.git/tree/contributing.mdwn#n159

<damo22>Ribby: as someone else pointed out, arch hurd is unmaintained. You would be better off with latest debian hurd netinst CD image

<Ribby>I think you're right.

<Ribby>Just a question, does Arch Hurd include enough offline dependencies for a DE?

<Ribby>Like, xfce DE dependencies on the installation media device?

<Ribby>Either way, I know enough to port the dependencies from external device. It's just a matter of time and effort to compile them.

<damo22>ive never used Arch Hurd

<damo22>what hardware are you installing this on?

<Ribby>Dell Dimension 4500S, it will be slow going.

<damo22>start with the debian netinst image

<damo22>ymmv

<Ribby>Will the debian netinst be enough for a console session? There is no online connection at the moment. Maybe after installation or when the wifi usb adapter comes around.

<damo22>hurd does not have wifi

<damo22>or usb

<damo22>installation is tricky with no network

<Ribby>As long it installs a OS, the dependencies can come post-installation.

<Ribby>All I have to do is to configure the source list to include a offline source.

<Ribby>Once I collected enough OS repository packages onto a (acceptable) offline device, things are going.

<youpi>damo22: you can get an older version of libecj-java from http://snapshot.debian.org/package/ecj/

<youpi>3.11.0-1 will probably fit

<youpi>damo22: also check out jkoenig's work detailed on the wiki in ./user/jkoenig/java.mdwn and ./user/jkoenig/java/*

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