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<ZhaoM>youpi: yeah it works with the terminal returned by tty!

<youpi>so does vim itself use RDONLY or WRONLY ?

<ZhaoM> https://github.com/vim/vim/blob/master/src/pty.c#L194

<ZhaoM>O_RDWR

<ZhaoM>so I'm quite confused now

<ZhaoM>hope I didn't misunderstand the code

<ZhaoM>so I tried to get run rpctrace with ./vim, I can't believe on that small testing program :/

<ZhaoM>rpctrace -o temp_log ./vim --clean

<ZhaoM>although it hangs at the end with: task64(pid1275)->gsync_wait (44243924 0 0 0 0)

<ZhaoM>it seems like a dead lock

<Pellescours>sneek: later tell ZhaoM yes there is a dead lock with rpctrace and gsync_wait, solid_black can probably tell you more about it

<sneek>Got it.

<azert>Pellescours: is the deadlock the one that was identified in this mail? https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2017-03/msg00010.html

<zamfofex>Hello, Hurd! What does /dev/vda (from Linux) correspond to on the Hurd?

<almuhs>hi. Do you know if it's posible to develop a Hurd's translator in Rust?

<almuhs>i'm exploring possible topics to make my PhD about that, and write a translator in Rust to solve a TODO could be a good idea

<Pellescours>almuhs: I would say yes you just need to use the C library (with bindings) or reimplement their functionnalities in rust (to be able to talk with RPCs)

<Pellescours>zamfofex: vda is for virtio drivers

<Pellescours>we don’t have virtio in hurd currently

<zamfofex>Hmm, I see. (Sadness and sorrow only.)

<Gooberpatrol66>solid_black was interested in adding virtio

<Gooberpatrol66>(and me but i kind of got lost in the weeds)

<almuhs>Pellescours: It's like recreate the "API" in rust, it's not?

<anatoly>for rust, we either need bindings for higher level abstractions such as trivfs, netfs, etc or a lower level implementation using RPC with another level of abstraction on top of it.

<anatoly>I guess rust is not different to other langs in the "hurd bindings" land

<anatoly>As far as I remember lisp bindings went low level RPC path and other languages wrapped higher level hurd abstractions

<anatoly>It feels (I'm not expert in rust) that the RPC path is more suitable for rust as it reduces the area of "un-safe" code rust needs to interact with

<almuhs>where can I find the translator's C library docs?

<Pellescours>almuhs: here basically https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/doc/hurd_toc.html, the fshelp library is probably the section you are looking for

<almuhs>thanks, i will read it

<azert>almuhs: why rust?

<azert>why not C?

<almuhs>it's a experiment, a innovation issue

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