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<ZhaoM>hi do we have any coding standard about identation in the Hurd repo? It seems to me that tab and spaces are used together <youpi>in the hurd repo it's supposed to be the gnu standard <youpi>(but there is also linux source in pfinet which uses the linux standard) <youpi>essentially it's a tab-filling principle: when you have 8 spaces, you replace it with a tab <youpi>e.g. the noexpandtab option in vim <youpi>and the tabstop option set to 8 <ZhaoM>Do you mean the first recommended config in `:help tabstop` in vim is fine? <p4r4D0xum>can somebody explain me how recording messages works? <youpi>sneek: tell p4r4D0xum later hello <sneek>p4r4D0xum, youpi says: later hello <youpi>sneek: tell later p4r4D0xum hello <sneek>later, youpi says: p4r4D0xum hello <youpi>Mmm, can't remember the syntax :) <youpi>sneek: later tell p4r4D0xum hello <youpi>p4r4D0xum: now say something <sneek>Welcome back p4r4D0xum, you have 1 message! <sneek>p4r4D0xum, youpi says: hello <p4r4D0xum>sneek: later tell gnucode We're talking about manufacturing homebrewed chips - z2 made in 2021 has 12x100=1200 transistors, that's 1/4 of intel 4004 <nikolar>p4r4D0xum: who's manufacturing those chips :) <azert>p4r4D0xum: I was following those developments <azert>according to their schedule, they should have reached 10k transistor by now <azert>their blog was very brillant <nikolar>he hasn't release an update in a while though iirc <nikolar>so maybe we'll get a nice one soon :) <nikolar>btw 8088 only had about 3000 transistors i think <azert>I think he opened his company <azert>He is hiring like he’s gonna overtake intel <nikolar>i doubt making a ~10k chip is very profitable <nikolar>do you know what you need to make a 3nm chip <nikolar>just the fab takes over 10 years to build <azert>I think it needs a deal with asml <azert>Maybe one really smart and with tons of CIS money can bypass asml <nikolar>yeah, and the rest of the machine is asml <nikolar>if intel/tsmc/etc can't do without them, you have no chance <azert>I think they just want to have fun <azert>If they make a 32bit 33mhz processor compatible with consumer ram, the Hurd will run on it <azert>nikolar: the idea of an homebrew fab is fun <nikolar>But making a company around it is a big move <nikolar>Making a profit off of 70s tech in 2024 is not exactly easy <nikolar>Fun fact, 32bit x86 patens have expired so it's technically an open Isa <nikolar>They could make a 386 compatible CPU :) <nikolar>They need several orders of magnitude more transistors though <azert>It’s California, they’ll pull it out <azert>If you are from Europe you cannot understand <p4r4D0xum>sneek: tell azert I happen to live 139 km from ASML, and since from today I'm officially Dutchman, and don't have to be deported to Uganda, going to do some research in this field very soon. <sneek>azert, p4r4D0xum says: I happen to live 139 km from ASML, and since from today I'm officially Dutchman, and don't have to be deported to Uganda, going to do some research in this field very soon. <p4r4D0xum>sneek: tell azert later I happen to live 139km from ASML <sneek>azert, p4r4D0xum says: later I happen to live 139km from ASML <p4r4D0xum>youpi: who hurt the person who wrote this bot? :P