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<gnucode>rm: cannot remove '/home/joshua/ftp2:': Device or resource busy <gnucode>I find it interesting that /hurd/remap is often invoked without settrans <gnucode>or maybe the remap command invokes settrans. <gnucode>ah ha! remap is a script. cat $(which remap) <damo22>youpi: i cant install librust-pyo3-dev <damo22>it says it depends on llvm-runtime <youpi>you can install llvm-runtime version 16 <youpi>please show logs, it does work here <damo22> llvm : Depends: llvm-runtime (= 1:19.0-60) but it is not going to be installed <damo22> Depends: llvm-19 (>= 19~) but it is not installable <youpi>install both llvm and llvm-runtime version 16 <damo22>demo@zamhurd:/part3/debian/rpds-py$ sudo apt install llvm-16 <damo22>llvm-16 is already the newest version (1:16.0.6-27+b1). <damo22>demo@zamhurd:/part3/debian/rpds-py$ sudo apt install llvm-16-runtime <damo22>llvm-16-runtime is already the newest version (1:16.0.6-27+b1). <damo22>llvm-16-runtime set to manually installed. <youpi>no, really llvm and llvm-runtime <youpi>e.g. apt install ./llvm_* ./llvm-runtime_* <damo22>ok now i get into the fun part: Caused by: The operating system Hurd is not supported <damo22>the problem is in python3-maturin <damo22>but i cant install the build-deps for that <pavlx>Which hardware is supported by Gnu/hurd? <damo22>but it runs just fine on any hw in qemu <pavlx>Svga, Ram, Sound cards, DVD or CD, mouse ps/2 or usb, hdd's, i am not interested in emulation but a real support, i would install Gnu/hurd on a computer <damo22>there is no 3d graphics support or sound yet <pavlx>Is there some preferable support for svga? <pavlx>Which are the producers and the models fine supported by Gnu/hurd? <gnucode>pavlx: The T60 is probably the best option at the moment. I use a T43 with 1.5 GB. <gnucode>I just sent a patchset in editing the Hurd wiki using the T43. <pavlx>If i remember well T60 and T43 are laptops <gnucode>pavlx: Be sure that you do NOT use libreboot/coreboot. <gnucode>I also use i3. You probably want to use something light-weight. <pavlx>Okay, thank you very much for your reply <gnucode>pavlx: I also blog about using the Hurd at gnucode.me <damo22>you can use coreboot, but X wont work <damo22>because VESA BIOS extensions are missing <pavlx>In Computer Science, I have always hated this rush to buy newer hardware (consumerism), without evaluating the real needs of the users. <pavlx>and then this fact that the hardware is not free hardware at all, so much so that for decades we would like a free software operating system with free hardware. Best Regards, Paolo Del Bene <pavlx>Next year, in 2025 will be the 40 year of Free Software Foundation https://fsf.org in Boston, i am thinking to come, at the moment i am in Italy, near Rome <pavlx>I never known https://gnucode.me i'll read with much interest, because like me to read anything :-) best regards, Paolo <gnucode>I set up my X background via feh ... then I killed X (it seemed to be locking up). Then the Hurd console's text was yellow! <gnucode>it would be really cool to set up the Hurd's consold as a zenburn theme. <ZhaoM>I'm trying to use pre-built mig from apt(1.8+git20230520-6) and the git source gnu mach to build the kernel <ZhaoM>commit hash of gnu mach is 2275d52... <ZhaoM>but I get an error like ../linux/dev/include/linux/if.h:148:17: error: unknown type name 'caddr_t' <ZhaoM>I just realised it is better to post those on the mail list :) <gnucode>Gooberpatrol_66: what are you up to? I added a background to my Hurd box and make my uxrvt look pretty. <Gooberpatrol_66>btw i won't be available on the 19 so if someone could record the hackathon that'd be great <gnucode>I can! No worries. We'll see how big of a turn out that we have. <gnucode>is eth-filter supposed to be at /hurd/eth-filter ?