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<gnucode>I'm just now realizing that the hurd wiki doesn't document all of the hurd translators.

<gnucode>adding in eth-multiplexer now.

<sneek>etno, you have 2 messages!

<sneek>etno, gnucode says: I also do not know how to properly port netsurf to the Hurd.

<sneek>etno, gnucode says: I do have some patches to fix one or two occurances of PATH_MAX in the netsurf code base...I should really sent that upstream.

<etno>sneek: later tell gnucode I have a patch that removes most occurrences of PATH_MAX from NetSurf, but azert's point seems pretty sensible to me. So I don't know how to proceed. Indeed, adding #ifndef->#define is very pragmatic and I can't see when this would cause problems. All I want is a web browser so that I can hack the Hurd using the Hurd.

<sneek>Okay.

<gnucode>morning hurd people

<sneek>Welcome back gnucode, you have 1 message!

<sneek>gnucode, etno says: I have a patch that removes most occurrences of PATH_MAX from NetSurf, but azert's point seems pretty sensible to me. So I don't know how to proceed. Indeed, adding #ifndef->#define is very pragmatic and I can't see when this would cause problems. All I want is a web browser so that I can hack the Hurd using the Hurd.

<gnucode>remap /etc/motd /dev/null -- cat /etc/motd

<gnucode>/bin/settrans: fsys_goaway: (ipc/mig) server died

<gnucode>that seems odd?

<gnucode>remap /etc/motd /dev/null -- wc /etc/motd

<gnucode>0 0 0 /etc/motd

<gnucode>/bin/settrans: fsys_goaway: (ipc/mig) server died

<gnucode>so that works I guess...

<gnucode>hello friends!

<user_oreloznog>\o

<gnucode>user_oreloznog: what are you up to today?

<user_oreloznog>hi gnucode! Nothing special, just extra activities (out of developpment)

<gnucode>Sounds cool.

<almuhs>hi. I have this problem when run startx https://pasteboard.co/D8aoOtkJ6v5F.png

<jab>well that's hilarious.

<jab>I was playing with the ethernet-multiplexer...

<jab>and my internet on my Hurd machine didn't work afterward.

<jab>then my Hurd box locked up on me, so now I can't ssh into it. So I'll probably have to eventually hard shut it down.

<almuhs>you can try to access to filesystem

<almuhs>jab: check lines 28 to 35, to discover how to mount the filesystem https://github.com/AlmuHS/gnumach_dev_scripts/blob/main/upload_kernel.sh#L27-L35

<jab>almuhs: I'm running the Hurd in real hardware.

<youpi>jab: you don't have console access?

<jab>youpi: I'm running X.

<jab>it's locked up on X.

<jab>and if by console access you mean...

<youpi>almuhs: you need to start the Hurd console before Xorg can start

<jab>that I have some sort of device other than my keyboard to input commands to my T43...then no.

<almuhs>youpi: i have started the hurd-console, but the problem keeps here

<youpi>almuhs: did you make sure to keep the hurd console's configuration to have the keyboard & mouse repeaters ?

<almuhs>jab: can you open a console emulator from X ?

<jab>almuhs: my T43 is not responding to my keyboard keypresses.

<jab>It doesn't matter what I press.

<jab>C-A-Del is configured to kill X.

<jab>I tried it.

<jab>X is still running.

<almuhs>then make a hard shutdown, and fsck

<jab>probably what I will have to do.

<almuhs>there is not other way, i think

<jab>it would be nice to use the serial console. I don't know what hardware I need to buy to use that.

<jab>or if the T43 has a serial console.

<almuhs>i don't think that T43 have a serial port

<jab>ahhh. bummer.

<almuhs>i continue fighting with xorg

<almuhs>it doesn't detects keyboard

<almuhs>(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.4.log", Time: Sun Oct 13 23:26:11 2024

<almuhs>(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"

<almuhs>(==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"

<almuhs>Cannot open keyboard (Not a directory

<youpi>almuhs: again: did you make sure to keep the hurd console's configuration to have the keyboard & mouse repeaters ?

<almuhs>yeah

<almuhs>even i started manually

<almuhs> https://paste.debian.net/1332200/

<almuhs>this is the xorg log

<almuhs>found. I removed a if block in /etc/default/hurd-console

<jab>almuhs: are you running in qemu?

<jab>and I take it you're getting set up for our wesnoth game jam?

<almuhs>no. in Virtualbox. In qemu i usually have problems to start the DE

<almuhs>the desktop works better in virtualbox, in my experience

<almuhs>now running Xfce4 without problems

<almuhs>installing battle for wesnoth

<almuhs>i have to use the wesnoth-1.16 , because the wesnoth metapackage have dependency errors

<jab>almuhs: I use i3 in the Hurd. It's super light-weight.

<jab>oh, you can use the old version of wesnoth ?

<jab>I didn't know that!

<almuhs>using the snapshot repositories

<jab>oh. gotcha.

<almuhs>how do you get to run the desktop in qemu? I always have problems with the mouse

<jab>almuhs: I don't run the Hurd in qemu. I have always found that the Hurd runs better in real hardware.

<almuhs>battle for wesnoth fails in booting

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