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<dsmith> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40883408
<Gooberpatrol_66>dsmith >Devices like hard disks and video cards have gotten smarter. They have lots of state, their own firmware, and can possibly DMA over system memory bypassing OS protections. This means that the effectiveness of splitting things into processes is likely limited when the video card can just take your entire system down anyway.
<Gooberpatrol_66>pretty sure modern computers have IOMMUs which prevent that
<bjc>iommu groups aren't always sane
<Arsen>I think that underplays process isolation anyway..
<Arsen>"yeah but why bother making programs not crash if the PSU can fail" seems like something not too far-fetched from the original statement