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<lorenzo>Does the Hurd kernel have any potential?
<lorenzo>It seems like it can be a really secure alternative
<lorenzo>The only thing holding it back just seems to be enough devs/support
<lorenzo>I believe once we have good enough 64 bit support, we can get more people to start using it
<lorenzo>How far are we away from that?
<Gooberpatrol66>lorenzo: 64 bit basically works, idk about a timeline for releasing it https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/faq/64-bit.html
<Gooberpatrol66>there seems to be a hurd release every 2 years, so maybe 2025
<Gooberpatrol66>earlier would be cool though
<gnucode>lorenzo: you're welcome to help us make the 64-bit port more stable
<gnucode>doesn't hurd support clock_getttime ?
<gnucode>so I can probably remove this page: https://darnassus.sceen.net/~hurd-web/open_issues/clock_gettime/
<gnucode>I can probably remove Sergey from this page: https://darnassus.sceen.net/~hurd-web/open_issues/copyright_assignment/
<youpi>it doesn't really have monotonic
<youpi>that needs some support from the kernel
<gnucode>gotcha
<gnucode>do we still use the "external paging mechanism"
<gnucode> https://darnassus.sceen.net/~hurd-web/microkernel/mach/external_pager_mechanism/
<gnucode>?
<gnucode>If so, I can probably make that ASCII art look prettier.
<youpi>probably
<youpi>I don't remember if it's what we use for mach-defpager & such, but probably
<gnucode>kk
<lorenzo>gnucode: I would absolutely love to
<lorenzo>A lot of people say Hurd is dead, I don't think that at all
<lorenzo>It has so much potential
<lorenzo>Theoretically, we could achieve higher security than BSD or Linux if it got more love
<lorenzo>Don't stop Hurd team, we will make it happen!
<gnucode>lorenzo: I'm not a massive contributer. I do the occasional wiki edit. I personally run the Hurd on a T43. Works fairly well. I'm using the i3 window manager.
<damo22>its nice to have encouragement, but we really need more people to work on it
<Gooberpatrol66>youpi: was gdb amd64 support in the todo list fixed by flavio cruz a while back?
<youpi>Gooberpatrol66: yes, though it's not committed yet upstream
<etno>The overall stability with i386+Dell1750 is really good as well. I have been using it for some time now.