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<Gooberpatrol66>there was a grant to make guix shepherd distributed with goblins

<Gooberpatrol66>there was a thread on guix-devel where it was suggested to use it to make gnumach ipc distributed

<solid_black>Gooberpatrol66: reviving/rewriting netmsg would be exciting indeed

<solid_black>...that being said, libpager is (still) not multiuser-ready, in general it's unclear what this could be useful for

<Pellescours>Is pfinet and lwip about the same thing but 2 different implementations (ip stack) ?

<solid_black>yes

<Pellescours>they are translators right?

<solid_black>we'd normally call them servers rather than translators

<solid_black>since they don't expose much of an fs

<solid_black>but you could call them translators too

<Pellescours>ok

<Pellescours>If I want to have network provided by rumpkernels, I need to implement a rumpnet service (like we have for rumpdisk). Except rump network driver libs, do you think it will require more stuff? Or should the code size similar to rumpdisk?

<solid_black>damo22 would know about rump

<damo22>i couldnt seem to link rumpnet libs

<damo22>it was missing some symbols

<damo22>when i tried to compile a server for rumpnet

<damo22>i tried to compile a simple test program that called rump_init() and then opened the /dev/if0 or whatever

<damo22>but it would not link

<damo22>something is missing i think

<Pellescours>ok thanks

<Pellescours>damo22: I’m trying to do your example (build simple main linked with rump net). I have 3 methods that are dupplicated (rumpns_ifnet_list rumpns_ifnet_mtx and rumpns_ifnet_pslist)

<Pellescours>They are defined in librumpnet and librumpnet_net

<Pellescours>They are forward declared struct in librumpnet... I’m trying to comment there declaration there and reinstalling rumpkernels to see

<Pellescours> https://salsa.debian.org/hurd-team/rumpkernel/-/blob/master/buildrump.sh/src/sys/rump/librump/rumpnet/net_stub.c#L124

<Pellescours> https://salsa.debian.org/hurd-team/rumpkernel/-/blob/master/buildrump.sh/src/sys/net/if.c?ref_type=heads

<Pellescours>In one of the above file, there is missing some extern to prevent the dupplication of symbols

<Pellescours>Seeing comments in if.c and how it’s done for ipsec (for example), I think that the extern are missing in the if.c file

<Pellescours>Removing the ones in librumpnet (net_stub.c) don’t prevent compilation. I think it’s better to remove them from there.

<Pellescours>yay, I was able to compile with net libraries and do a rump_init

<Pellescours>damo22: what should I do after the rump_init()? You talked about a open /dev/if0, how should I do that?

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