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<gnucode>off topic: 2023 weird c code winner

<gnucode> https://www.ioccc.org/2020/carlini/index.html

<gnucode>I didn't know that printf is turing complete!

<danmorg>the the microkernel in the Hurd have kernel threads - and in the kernel? or are the threads only in user mode?

<azert>danmorg: I don’t think gnumach is preemptible or have kernel thread. I believe it has continuations. OSF Mach threads were notably redesigned so that it would be preemptible with kernel threads. I think it’s important for them since they run services in kernel space, for the Hurd im not so sure it makes any big difference

<azert>Why would anyone need kernel threads in a microkernel design?

<danmorg>azeem: i was only curious. just trying to understand how threading works in a microkernel

<danmorg>or i should say - an OS that is based around a microkernel

<danmorg>oops. i mean azert. sorry. but looks like azert left.

<ids1024>A lot of things that would be kernel threads on Linux would probably be userspace processes on a microkernel OS like Hurd.

<azeem>danmorg: et tu brutus

<nikolar>azeem: *Brute

<azeem>nikolar dominus eunt

<nikolar>azeem: *est

<youpi>to a fair extent, threads are simpler to program than continuation

<youpi>damo22: is your gitlab-runner box quite slow?

<youpi>the build on exodar is about 1h

<youpi>on your box 4h wasn't enough

<damo22>Model name: AMD GX-217GA SOC with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics

<damo22>CPU max MHz: 1650.0000

<damo22>youpi: ^

<damo22>its a HP T620 thin client with coreboot installed

<youpi>is it mostly idle ?

<damo22>yes

<damo22>it has two cores but im running hurd on one

<damo22>in a vm

<damo22>using kvm

<damo22>load average 0.0

<damo22>im not using it for anything else

<damo22>it almost boots natively with hurd, but i cant see the log of rumpdisk, to see why hdd is not detected

<damo22>it has a physical serial port, maybe i should connect it and try to extract logs

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