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<damo22>i fixed my cgit not displaying all git branches :D
<damo22>youpi: good morning
<Zopolis4>I want to help contribute to hurd, but I don't think I'll be helpful on the OS side. Is there anything specific I should do as opposed to just porting a bunch of stuff?
<damo22>Zopolis4: do you know any rust?
<damo22>me neither
<Zopolis4>and im not particularly inclined to learn it
<Zopolis4>maybe i could look into porting go
<Zopolis4>unless its already poorted
<AwesomeAdam54321>Rust takes a long time to bootstrap too
<damo22>we just need to port the stdlib
<damo22>the rest can be cross built
<Zopolis4>im already bootstrapping gcc quite frequently so im used to long build times
<Zopolis4>for rust or go?
<damo22>Zopolis4: if you want a challenge rust stdlib would be useful at least
<AwesomeAdam54321>I don't have any experience with C, is there any way I could help?
<damo22>anyone can help
<Zopolis4>i need to get gcj into upstream before i take on any big projects, but ill keep it in mind
<AwesomeAdam54321>Zopolis4: Ooh, up to what version of java can GCJ compile?
<Zopolis4>well you see
<Zopolis4>bold of you to assume gcj can compile
<damo22>i dont know the specifics of what we need for non-coding assistance
<AwesomeAdam54321>damo22: Maybe I can help with getting the Guix System up to par for hacking on the HURD
<damo22>AwesomeAdam54321: sure
<AwesomeAdam54321>I think right now it's mostly a demo in a VM
<damo22>debian is easier to hack on hurd because some of the packages are the upstream
<damo22>due to the microkernel nature of it, its quite a fragmented system, everything is in different libraries, not by accident
<damo22>youpi has a tough job keeping up with packaging
<damo22>what we probably need is to make the debian port not force us to include latest of packages
<damo22>so we can have a stable version of everything and not have to update it when a linux package gets bumped
<Zopolis4>i mean we could just move the debian port to a named release rather than sid
<Zopolis4>or a sid snapshot at the time of a named release
<damo22>i think its more than that, the port needs to be stored in a flat format instead of some packages combined with other arch
<damo22>i think youpi said it was a flat DAK format
<damo22>its a debian thing
<damo22>for example, we dont really need the latest version of git every time a new version comes out
<damo22>but we are forced to build it
<damo22>and youpi has been fixing as much as he can when it breaks but its too hard for one person to manage
<damo22>we need help to reorganise the repository
<damo22>you cant hack easily on hurd using guix
<damo22>for a start, guix doesnt boot itself
<damo22>its a package manager
<damo22>debian hurd has an installer built already that works
<AwesomeAdam54321>damo22: Guix uses an operating system config to instruct it on the packages and the Scheme configuration
<damo22>yeah, unfortunately no one working on hurd itself knows much about guix
<damo22>for me, debian is the most convenient way to run hurd at the moment
<AwesomeAdam54321>Should I help with the Debian repo organisation stuff first, then work on Guix HURD?
<damo22>yes please
<damo22>we need to find out what is actually needed to do
<damo22> i think this is relevant
<Pellescours>damo22: I’m still trying to have rump being built with both ahcisata and piixide, I do not success to have ata stuff being build in separate lib
<Pellescours>I undersood that the symbol that conflicts (rumpns_atabus_ca, ...) are generated by ioconf and are in the ioconf.c
<Pellescours>I don’t know how I can move theses symbols into a separate lib