<sobkas>there is already grub2 patch that uses it <sobkas>I just can't build grub2 on hurd <damo22>sobkas: ive not tried to build grub2 on hurd before <damo22>maybe you need to apt-get build-dep <youpi>can't people just wait for things to get available in repositories? <youpi>asking for everything to come out right now right now is just sucking up people's time <Pellescours>sobkas: or you can do like me, update manually your grub.cfg to use rump <youpi>the more people are asking that way, the less I'm inclined to make any announcements <sobkas>I'm just interested in hurd, should I not build software on it to have fun with new features? <youpi>well you can but either you'll be on your own, or you'll be asking for help and thus we'll have to take time to help you <youpi>while things would just work automatically once we have everything set up <youpi>so in the end the most efficient way is to just wait <youpi>I'm sorry being harsh, I undestand it's exciting to try new features <youpi>but "bleeding edge" takes its name for a reason <sobkas>Did I asked for help? I only stated what happened when I tried build it, I will more than likely build it next day on my own <damo22>sobkas: its not a bug then, it will land in the repositories in a day or so <youpi>sorry again for being harsh, but yes your writing on irc does look like a request for help <youpi>so either I answer, or I just ignore <sobkas>More than likely a broken hurd disk image, I will try it again on a fresh one <damo22>sobkas: you cant expect the disk image to be up to date to bleeding edge if the packages havent even landed yet <sobkas>You can update it with apt, it's not that hard <damo22>yes but the packages have not landed in the repos <youpi>really, it's a matter of waiting about 6h <sobkas>hurd with rumpdisk landed, and if it didn't there is no problem with building it myself <youpi>hurd with rumpdisk is there for months already <sobkas>having experimental software is fun <damo22>and if you wait another day you wont need to compile anything <sobkas>But there were patches for gnumach and hurd fixing it recently, friday? and I also think that there was a new package for hurd and gnumach that probably contained it? ***biblio_ is now known as biblio
<curiosa>hello, I updated debian hurd and now rumpdisk is loaded at startup, how do I start to use it? <youpi>curiosa: by telling the kernel not to enable ide drivers <youpi>but then grub will not be fine <youpi>and you'll have to fix fstab etc. <curiosa>what about /dev , would I also have to fix that? <curiosa>what is the option to disable ide drivers in gnumach? <curiosa>ext2fs: device:wd0s2: no such device or address <youpi>yes, you need to use the parted naming <youpi> /dev/ doesn't exist at that point <curiosa>I tried root=part:2:device:wd0 noide <curiosa>still ext2fs: no such device or address <youpi>please paste the whole message <curiosa>so, there is lots of logs from the pci arbiter <youpi>also check that you do see wd0 initialization <youpi>the pci arbiter doesn't print anything <youpi>again, paste the whole thing <youpi>being "not configured" doesn't mean it can't be used <youpi>I don't remember if the ide drivers were added to rumpdisk, actually <youpi>you can probably tell virtuallbox to use ahci instead <youpi>or some other sata supported by rumpdisk <curiosa>this means that rumpdisk is not compatible with virtualbox ICH6, this is not an issue for me of course <youpi>probably it's just missing linking in the ide driver <Pellescours>they are displayed in the console during boot but otherwise I don’t know <youpi>I don't think they are saved anywhere <youpi>most often you can just use a serial port and save them on the host side <youpi>the cdrom part is another problem <youpi>qemu has a bug, bsd has a bug <curiosa>how do you tell gnumach to use the serial port for console? <youpi>it's all explained in the wiki, in the gnumach documentation, etc. <damo22>currently rumpdisk is not linked with the piixide driver, but if it was, it might get confused when ide and ahci are both present, i dont know