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<gnu_srs1>youpi: I think the cross-hurd scripts should be hosted somewhere, e.g. savannah. WDYT? <gnu_srs1>Even if the built image does not boot, they are usable. Next I'll create packages for Guix bootstrap. <gnu_srs1>We could even port some software that needs self-bootstrap, e.g. fpc, rust? <damo22>gnu_srs1: what is the goal of cross-hurd? <damo22>im trying to get all drivers out of gnumach, thats my goal currently <gnu_srs1>It is usable for e.g building software not yet ported to Hurd: fpc, rustc. <gnu_srs1>It is also usable for creating bootstrap binaries for Guix on Hurd. <gnu_srs1>Of course this can also be made natively, but anyway. <damo22>gnu_srs1: has anyone tried porting hurd to x86_64 native? <damo22>i feel like that would be a very useful thing to do <gnu_srs1>damo22: You are doing vary important stuff. Your work can lead to more people running Hurd on real HW. <gnu_srs1>If only the work of multicore could be completed. <damo22>i need to finish rumpdisk, then take a look at APIC again <gnu_srs1>Then the list would be shorter: 64-bit, audio (ongoing), USB, etc?? <damo22>i think usb already works, but no one has tested it <damo22>i think we can just link umass driver to the rumpdisk binary and it should give usb disk support <gnu_srs1>Dunno anything about porting Hurd to x86_64 native. <damo22>but i need to chase down this pci bug first <gnu_srs1>Maybe rumpdisk can be used for network too? Retiring netdde! <gnu_srs1>Cleaning out all linux code from gnumach and hurd, replacing it with lwip, rumpdisk, rumpnet? would be a very, very nice achievement. <gnu_srs1>Another usage of the cross-built Hurd (when booting) is to make distributions other than Debian, like Arch Hurd that existed some years ago. <gnu_srs>z3ntu: Hi, maybe you could help debugging why the cross-built Hurd image does not boot hanging on runscript. When that image boots, I think installing other packages would be rather easy. <gnu_srs>All cross-built packages are the latest, e.g. hurd/gnumach from git, gcc-9.2.0, glibc-2.30 etc. <z3ntu>gnu_srs: interesting that you got glibc to compile, it always fails with some floating point errors for me <z3ntu>my repo is also a fork from his repo <z3ntu>Those scripts set up translators the first time really early in the boot process (the SETUP file in the repo) <gnu_srs>I did a major rework of these scripts and have now all prepared, but the runsystem file fails to run properly when booting. <gnu_srs>Any help (and hosting) would be appreciated. <gnu_srs>youpi: You are not interested in hosting? If not I'll find some other host :( <gnu_srs>For me next would be to create the needed tarballs for Guix bootstrap. The current ones are broken... <z3ntu>link to your modified scripts? <youpi>really, you have to work on your way of asking questions <youpi>"you are not interested in [foo]" <youpi>is really not a way to ask for something <gnu_srs>I asked for hosting of the cross-hurd scripts: (08:57:38 AM) gnu_srs1: youpi: I think the cross-hurd scripts should be hosted somewhere, e.g. savannah. WDYT? <z3ntu>gnu_srs: just upload them to any random git host, I can't help you if I don't know what you're doing <gnu_srs>OK, I'd not use github though. Maybe gitlab. <gnu_srs>Sorry, the comment about scrolling back was to youpi, not you. <youpi>gnu_srs1: my computer crashed this morning, I didn't get to read the irc backlog <youpi>xorg doesn't like multiple screen + xlock <youpi>the incubator is there for hosting anything people want <gnu_srs>OK, how do I get access to the incubator? <gnu_srs>I'm trying something dangerous now: Resetting mate-panel. It takes half of my 32GiB memory space. BBL, hopefully. <youpi>gnu_srs: create a savannah account, request for joining the hurd project there <gnu_srs>killall mate-panel worked, it was respawned. Memory usage is now down from 50% to 0.1% :-D <gnu_srs>More memory space for more interesting applications, like Hurd, kFreeBSD, Devuan, etc (including build hosts) <youpi>z3ntu: you should request it as well <youpi>there is no reason for people hacking on the hurd not doing it in the savannah repo <z3ntu>it's fine for me imo, contributions with git send-email work independent of the git host ;) <youpi>yes, but a rendez-vous point is important <youpi>otherwise we have all kinds of things everywhere <youpi>people not knowing what exists <gnu_srs>youpi: You don't seem to be one of the responsible people behind "The GNU Hurd" group. Maybe you should? <gnu_srs>The names there are mainly oldtimers, except Thomas. <z3ntu>youpi does most of the things Hurd related, as far as I know <gnu_srs>z3ntu: Yes, I know, but requesting to join the GNU Hurd group sent mails to: Thomas B, Roland, Marcus, Neil, and Thomas S. <youpi>gnu_srs: that's not for me to decide ***Emulatorman__ is now known as Emulatorman
<Aquza>can i ask a question here about glibc? #glibc is feeling dead? <gnu_srs>damo22: Are you awake? I'm about to get to bed now. <gnu_srs>Nevertheless I think your contributions are awesome. How would we further-on?