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<bremner>is this a known issue with "compute-guix-derivation" https://paste.debian.net/hidden/6aed7418
<vagrantc>bremner: i think ... maybe it is ... lemme dig through some noise
<vagrantc>bremner: https://codeberg.org/guix/guix/pulls/10830
<vagrantc>also, hello freind!
<bremner>ohai!
<bremner>currently trying to build guixsd for my pocket, you are probably the person to talk to
<vagrantc>yah, been maintaining the mnt/reform patchsets for linux-libre ....
<vagrantc>i have no direct experience with using on a mnt/pocket reform ... but allegedly someone has successfully used it
<bremner>hmm. OK, will keep at it. Currently waiting for a libgpg-error fix, or time to learn how to fix it myself
<apteryx>bremner: :-)
<bremner>oh lol. No wonder the error looked familar, I already hit that trying to upgrade from 1.4.0. I hit it again because I was in a stale terminal calling /usr/bin/guix
<vagrantc>bremner: ah yeah, that's a common papercut
<vagrantc>guix vs. guix vs. guix vs. guix
<vagrantc>so many to choose from
<switchy>bremner: ooh, maybe an excuse to bust my pocket out. how much luck are you having?
<oliverD>I think the package template i copied doesn't seem to clone git submodules: (source
<oliverD> (origin
<oliverD> (method git-fetch)
<oliverD> (uri (git-reference
<oliverD> (url "https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps.git")
<oliverD> (commit "v2026.08.07-3")
<oliverD> )))
<switchy>I think there's a (recursive? #t) field in there?
<st1ry>hi I was wondering is there any way to fix the tty freezing for a bit on guix it happens both on my desktop and laptop:)
<st1ry>im running guix current
<st1ry>is anyone having the same issue?
<switchy>I can't say I've noticed that, but what do you mean by "freezing for a bit"? probably help to get a bit more detail about what you're trying to do and what's happening
<st1ry>after boot when I land into the tty it wont do any user input for a good couple of mins after a bit if I try switching ttys then it works and I can log into my user
<st1ry>i just did a fresh reinstall but now im stuck on this is the gnu system welcome gnu login I don't have input sadly
<ruenoak>I have a similar issue after updating to the latest, GDM wont start and it just hangs at the gnu system welcome text. I think I think it might be related to this but not sure yet. https://forum.systemcrafters.net/t/unable-to-reconfigure-my-system-anymore-gdm-hangs/2105
<ruenoak>I added (service gnome-desktop-service-type) to my config but received allot of errors when re configuring so I removed it.
<PuercoPop>Why does the following return #<unspecified> instead of dissappearing the form?: `((".gitignore" gitignore) ,@(when #f '((".gitattributes" gitattributes)))) => $3 = ((".gitignore" gitignore) . #<unspecified>)
<PuercoPop>Is it because scheme doesn't true nil and () as the same value?
<czan>It's because (when $f blah)'s return value is unspecified. It's not specified to be nil or ().
<czan>Technically given the wording in the standards (e.g. r7rs) Guile could choose to return a different value, but for some reason it returns the #<unspecified> value instead.
<PuercoPop>Ok, so the ,@(when foo (list ...)) idiom from Lisp requires the use of if in scheme them?
<czan>Yup.
<czan>I assume Guile chooses not to return () because it would only be correct in list contexts, whereas when can be used in other contexts, too, where an empty list would be a bizarre return value.
<PuercoPop>czan: Thanks
<sham1>,@(if foo '((".gitattributes" gitattributes)) '())
<sham1>So yeah, you need to use if
<jlicht>hi guix
<GalaxyNova>ruenoak: Oh yeah I also have the same issue with GDM
<GalaxyNova>It locked my out of my laptop for a bit
<GalaxyNova>I solved it by removing GDM :P
<untrusem>GalaxyNova, lol
<untrusem>the gdm gnome is issue is known
<csantosb>Regarding gdm, see guix/guix#10931
<nikolar>Hmm getting 502 when trying to install guix
<bremner>switchy: early days still, figuring out how to make an image (which is blocked because of the aforementioned libgpg-error bug)
<untrusem>it is know right?
<untrusem>known*
<bremner>yes, I reported it
<Nessah>nikolar: Hi there! Are you trying to download 1.5.0?
<nikolar>Yes
<nikolar>Well, the script is
<Nessah> https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/guix/ ISOs are available here too
<Nessah> https://ftpmirror.gnu.org/ appears broken atm
<untrusem>you should download the latest one
<untrusem>will save you a long guix pull
<Nessah>The ISOs are fixed now?
<Nessah>latest ISOs*
<Nessah>ci is 504'ing, so 1.5.0 is the only option atm
<nikolar>And how do I install the latest on a foreign distro
<bremner>you can "guix pull" from 1.5.9
<bremner>err. 1.5.0
<apteryx>eh, gpg screams "NOTE: THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT VERSION!" on every use
<untrusem>yep, I can't even sign commits
<untrusem>it used to work but, now it says no pinentry
<untrusem>something in this version changed
<Nessah>Don't you have to install pinentry too? Or should pinentry be a part of the gpg derivation?
<Nessah>Last time I tried encryption in emacs, it expected pinentry in my profile