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<apteryx>can I mark some PR as reviewed with fj.el?

<apteryx>not yet implemented I think

<meatoid>does anyone know how i can get a libSDL-1.2.so.0 on my system? I thought it might be in sdl2-compat but no dice

<bdunahu>I think I see it in sdl12-compat

<meatoid>ohhh

<meatoid>darn typography lol

<apteryx>if someone had been unable to convince emacs-erc to reliably write logs (and reload them in newly created chat buffers), try https://codeberg.org/guix/guix/pulls/8083

<ieure>meatoid, sdl2-compat is the SDL 2.x compatibility layer for SDL 3.x. You want sdl12-compat, which is the SDL 1.2 compatibility layer for SDL 2.

<bdunahu>the way I solve this problem without bothering to figure out how things work is running `find` on /gnu/store

<ieure>bdunahu, That only works if the package is already in the store, which is often not the case.

<bdunahu>it works most of the time when I don't garbage collect at least

<bdunahu>need more storage

<bdunahu>actually most of the time it end up doing it is for a container environment, and then it usually is in the store

<rogerfarrell>Do I need to manually build my alsa-service config? I am looking for a minimal solution for sound.

<meatoid>does anyone know why `logictl` commands take two attempts to work? the first time I try to sleep or hibernate the pc wakes up immediately

<GreenRocky>Hello everyone. Is there any chance my messages are not being received on help-guix@gnu.org?

<GreenRocky>Does it just take a while to show up on the archive?

<GreenRocky>Sorry, I'm a little new to mailing lists

<ieure>GreenRocky, Are they in the archives on the mailing list's web site?

<ieure>If they are: they are being delivered.

<GreenRocky>ieure: They are not, that is what caused me to be concerned.

<ieure>rogerfarrell, I have never needed to mess with ALSA at all, but I do see it's only in %desktop-services, not %base-services. There is no configuration in %desktop-services, just (service alsa-service-type). So unless you have a specific reason why you need a special configuration, that should work for your case.

<ieure>GreenRocky, Someone might need to approve if it's your first time posting, it can take a couple days. It's because of spam.

<GreenRocky>ieure: Oh okay, thank you

<rogerfarrell>ieure, Thanks!

<apteryx>untrusem: GNOME Console 50 copy-paste to Emacs issue vanished after a reconfigure/reboot

<apteryx>sneek: later tell GreenRocky your messages were in the moderation queue; they should have gone through now.

<sneek>Got it.

<civodul>Hello Guix!

<nox>o/

<apteryx>bonjour

<apteryx>rekado: hey! do you currently use guile-aws anywhere?

<futurile>morning all

<cmiller>I am using GNU Guix on aarch64. I can't upgrade, since there is always something that doesn't build. Is there a way to find out a commit that has all substitutes available? My issue is that I can't modify the system. After installation you are required to do a guix pull, or else you are downgrading the system. But I can't install upgrades, since

<cmiller>packages fail. rocm for example

<identity>cmiller: apart from trying-and-seeing, nothing trivial that i know of. not sure if <https://ci.guix.gnu.org/> shows built commits, but trying HEAD~50 would probably work, unless you are unlucky with the exact commit you land on

<futurile>cmiller: you can create a manifest of packages and then use 'guix weather'

<identity>…to check whether the current has the substitutes. unless ‹guix weather› can tell you which commit has substitutes for the packages you want, which i would be surprised by

<identity>current commit

<avigatori>o/

<gabber`>\o

<kratacoa> https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/html_node/Build-Utilities.html#index-substitute_002a

<kratacoa>I am not sure I understand the last line:

<kratacoa>Be careful about using $ to match the end of a line; by itself it won’t match the terminating newline of a line. For example, to match a whole line ending with a backslash, one needs a regex like "(.*)\\\\\n$".

<kratacoa>It says "ending with a backslash", but isn't it looking at two backslashes?

<civodul>kratacoa: hi! i don’t think so: two backslashes end up in the regexp, which would may one backslash

<civodul>(if i’m not mistaken)

<futurile>kratacoa: I published a post about this if you want to learn about Guile's regex, specifically escaping: https://www.futurile.net/2025/05/11/guile-scheme-regular-expressions-for-guix-grouping-escaping/

<meatoid>does anyone else experience 'loginctl hibernate' or 'loginctl suspend' commands taking two tries to work? the first time, my pc just waks up immediately

<civodul>meatoid: nope, works well for me (mostly ‘hibernate’; i just close the lid when i want suspend-to-RAM)

<yelninei>civodul: What to do with gnulib vma-iter.c requiring <linux/fs.h> which is not in %bootstrap-linux-libre-headers but is not actually needed because it depends on an ioctl in linux >=6.11

<kratacoa>civodul: right, I missed the evaluation step that regex needs more substitution. thanks

<kratacoa>futurile: I actually got to that pages from civodul's reply to your toot about the article :) thanks for your work

<nox>o/

<nox>is there a Guile API to guix containers?

<dthompson>nox: see (gnu build linux-container)

<n|Phreak>yeah 8 gigs is probably the bare minimum for guix

<n|Phreak>oops sorry my window wasn't at the bottum

<yelninei>Very much not a fan of core-packages-team being completely broken by label removals

<neox>andreas-e, hey, just saw you close my PR. It was not a duplicate, as I rebased with master (on a tip from Danylo): I added a dependency (python-cryptography) and removed a now unused dependency, on the basis of the changelog

<neox>ACTION is talking about #8089

<yelninei>i guess I wont be continuining with this for now because getting a label related error in every package i am trying to build kind of kills motivation to continue

<untrusem>ohh

<untrusem>how so

<yelninei>see the last 5 issues I opened with [core-packages-team]

<untrusem>yelninei, yeah I saw that

<untrusem>oof

<ekaitz>guys did we break neovim's treesitter?

<ekaitz>is there any other person using neovim in here?

<ieure>Are only guys allowed to answer?

<ekaitz>ieure: yes

<ekaitz>ieure: but only the ones who broke neovim's treesitter

<ekaitz>ACTION understands and will do it better next time but can't stop thinking about how good ieure 's basque is

<ekaitz>or spanish, even

<ieure>No idea what you're getting at.

<ieure>File an issue if you've found a problem, that's my advice.

<ekaitz>i'm trying to find people that use neovim, which i don't expect to find many

<ekaitz>so we can team up just to keep it well maintained

<ekaitz>these days I don't open issues that much, I just commit the fix

<ieure>Have there been recent changes to the package co-incident with the breakage?

<yelninei>ekaitz: is it this https://codeberg.org/guix/guix/issues/7981 ?

<ekaitz>yelninei: i just opened it! yep!

<ekaitz>looks like it derived in another separate problem

<ekaitz>fantastic

<ekaitz>okay i see some work has been done here: https://codeberg.org/guix/guix/pulls/7991/files

<ekaitz>ieure: i sometimes don't keep my sarcasm under control, but I just wanted to say english is just the third on the list of languages I use... It's hard sometimes to use right

<ekaitz>specially if then I go to a dictionary to check if I used the word wrong and it just means "person"

<ekaitz>(not the first meaning, I get that!)

<ekaitz>but still

<ekaitz>it's already hard enough to communicate in a language that is not yours

<ekaitz>ACTION is sorry for the harsh reply anyway

<untrusem>ieure, are you not facing this issue? https://codeberg.org/guix/guix/issues/8061

<ieure>untrusem, I am not.

<untrusem>interesting, maybe I am missing some package?

<ieure>untrusem, My guix is a couple days newer than yours, I'm on 41ab1cb from 4/16, you're on a commit from 4/12. Maybe it was fixed in between?

<ieure>untrusem, What environment are you running it in?

<untrusem>wayland, niri window manager

<untrusem>I will reconfigure and test again

<kestrelwx>untrusem: Do you have `gsettings-desktop-schemas` in your home profile?

<kestrelwx>I guess it could be the portal in your case.

<Tadhgmister>is there a way to tell guix to use default / stock substitute servers? I have one setup for a device on my home network but it is unreachable if I'm out of the house and it'd be nice to tell guix to just use the official ones and ignore the others I've specified

<ieure>Tadhgmister, Add this option to whatever command(s) you're running: --substitute-urls="https://ci.guix.gnu.org https://bordeaux.guix.gnu.org"

<Tadhgmister>ah right, are there only the two? for some reason I thought there were several mirror urls

<ieure>Those are the two official ones.

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