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<dajole>I'm trying to test my home-restic-backup-service-type (https://paste.debian.net/hidden/bd9c1730) by triggering it manually with `herd trigger backup-to-foo`. It says "Triggering timer." but seems to fail silently. I can create restic backups from the cli just fine. How can I introspect observe what's going wrong in the home service?

<mra>Rutherther: ah, I see. I'll have a look through that

<mra>I guess a GCD on the topic seems rather inevitable

<yar-oracool>Hellow!

<brian|lfs>I tired and tried to write a config file since graphic instgaller doesn't work I give up

<brian|lfs>LFS is earlier

<yar-oracool>Can we use modify service types the same way we do service type definitions? I have been banging my head against the wall for a while but nothing so far. The modul is detected but no matter where I put the code it gives an error.

<bjc>iirc, ‘modify-services’ can only update and delete from the set of services in its argument

<bjc>if you want to add to the list you'll need to use ‘append’ or ‘cons*’, etc

<yar-oracool>I want to define it in a file and use it like a module

<ieure>yar-oracool, What's your error?

<yar-oracool>wrong argument type in position 1 (expecting struct)

<ieure>yar-oracool, And what's the code?

<yar-oracool>It's either whre I'm placing it or how I defined it in the external file

<yar-oracool>or how I' even calling it

<ieure>Error seems like it's how you're calling it, but I don't have enough information to tell you.

<yar-oracool>rip

<yar-oracool>guess I have to merge it then.

<ieure>You could also share more information.

<yar-oracool>What info do you need?

<yar-oracool>like the files?

<ieure>That'd be ideal, yes.

<yar-oracool>system conf: https://pastebin.com/PqVZU5Yw

<yar-oracool>Modify defenition: https://pastebin.com/QCxz8KDn

<yar-oracool>Huh.. IRC doesn't know line breaks... oh well

<ieure>You can't send a line break in an IRC message, because they're used as part of the protocol and everything would break horribly.

<ieure>yar-oracool, Do you want the fix to your code, or a pointer already existing code that already does what you're trying to do?

<yar-oracool>A standard system would be ideal if it functions the way I like.

<yar-oracool>as in very modular

<yar-oracool>if not then guess I have to fix my dode

<yar-oracool>code*

<ieure>yar-oracool, PM'd since it's offtopic for #guix.

<ieure>But wrap your operating-system in that function, and it will do what you want.

<yar-oracool>ok... let's see how I can open my dms in emacs irc

<ieure>The problem with your code is that you're calling (service ...) but giving it a procedure. It expects a service.

<yar-oracool>b.. let me run thunder bird

<yar-oracool>Sent you a dm from thunder bird

<trev>do we have something similar to Nix's buildGo124Module?

<trev>basically i want to take all go inputs and put them into a vendor directory

<trev>or on the GOPATH

<miro`>Hello. I have a question about developing guix packages. i

<miro`>I send that too early... I'll type the question and come back

<miro`>When developing new packages, fixes or changes to existing packages, etc., what is the recommended way to test them?

<miro`>I now use `guix time-machine -C <channels> -- ...` where <channels> contains a local guix repository with the changes.

<miro`>However, there is also `./pre-inst-env guix ...`.

<trev>miro`: i am using ./pre-inst-env guix [build|shell [package]

<miro`>trev: ok thanks. Am I understanding something wrong if I think that they are more or less performing the same thing?

<trev>miro`: i suppose so if you are only working on packages. Sometimes i also just do that in a tmp directory and `guix shell -f /tmp/foo.scm' as well

<miro`>trev: ok thanks!

<Rutherther>miro`: they are going to give you the same package in the end. But guix time-machine was never meant for development. You always need to recompile everything from scratch, so the iteration can take tens of minutes. Whereas with pre-inst-env, you can recompile just what changed, so an iteration can take a few seconds

<yarl>Rutherther: (Just to know:) in the time-machine case, I think the changes must have been committed, am I wrong?

<Rutherther>yarl: yeah since time-machine operates on git refs/commits/branches

<Rutherther>and fetching a local repository can take quite a lot of time with guile-git since it fetches all refs

<ekaitz>nutcase Rutherther : ADW_DISABLE_PORTAL=1 for the dark theme setting

<ekaitz>at least in gajim

<Rutherther>ah so it tries desktop portal first and that returns no dark theme

<ekaitz>other apps didn't change

<ekaitz>(well only libreoffice)

<nutcase>ekaitz: Do you have gnome-themes-extra installed?

<ekaitz>this is adwaita specific

<ekaitz>nope

<nutcase>try that

<ekaitz>for libreoffice?

<nutcase>I'm not 100% sure, but I think it contains adwaita for gtk2 + gtk3

<nutcase>What does libreoffice use?

<ekaitz>aaah

<ekaitz>good point

<nutcase>gtk3

<ekaitz>for the moment it didn't change anything

<ekaitz>it's probably because it uses its own theme system

<ekaitz>ACTION reboots

<ekaitz_>okay got it working

<ekaitz_>except libreoffice

<ekaitz_>it's like a few things read the .config/gtk-3.0 or whatever files

<ekaitz_>and others just read from dbus and adwaita uses portals first

<ekaitz_>ACTION will never have an acceptable answer to: why?

<nutcase>ekaitz_: it's a mess. But I think 2027 is the year of the linux desktop

<ekaitz_>it has been the year of linux in the desktop for me since 2010, but this is... too much

<nutcase>ACTION since 1999

<ekaitz_>:)

<ekaitz_>it's desktop environments only worry about the experience of the whole thing together

<ekaitz_>and things separatedly don't work as well

<nutcase>It's like a human. You get to used to compromises

<ekaitz_>now i'm wondering, how does 'darkman' work?

<ekaitz_>it changes all the files, settings and reselaunches apps?

<nutcase>ekaitz_: It works here and I don't what it exactly does under the hood

<nutcase>you may look at the code or ask Hugo

<ekaitz_>yeah...

<ekaitz_>just enroll in the dark-theme master's thesis

<ekaitz_>because just *using* my computer is not hard enough, configuring it has to be also hard

<ekaitz_>:)

<nutcase>that's why we use emacs

<ekaitz_>:)

<intermet>Hello there! I would like to use fusemount for unprivileged users. According to the wiki I need to add the fs %fuse-control-file-system and "the fuse.ko kernel module to be loaded". How can I activate this module? Thank you for helping.

<intermet>I used (define-public %kernel-arguments

<intermet> (append '("fuse.ko=1")

<intermet> %default-kernel-arguments))

<intermet>but still get fusermount3: mount failed: Operation not permitted. I tried to add the user to the fuse group but same error.

<yarl>intermet: Did you look at 11.10.37 Linux Services (Kernel Module Loader Service)

<yarl>(In the guix manual)

<efraim>is anyone else having issues with cscope in vim?

<intermet>yari: I had the right service (service kernel-module-loader-service-type

<intermet> '("fuse.ko"))

<intermet>but I still get fusermount3: mount failed: Operation not permitted.

<kestrelwx>o/

<trev>i finally got kitty updated to the latest version. big patch incoming

<trev>😩

<kratacoa>trev: MASHALLAAAAA

<nox>nice

<nox>if it isn't already done, you may want to turn off kitty's update checking/phoning home (https://github.com/kovidgoyal/kitty/pull/3544)

<trev>we had (setenv "KITTY_NO_UPDATE_CHECK" "1") but it looks like that isn't anywhere in the code

<trev>i will look into patching it to zero

<trev>oh - Only check for updates in the official binary builds. Distro packages or source builds will no longer check for updates, regardless of the value of :opt:`update_check_interval`.

<trev>we have it at 0, so all good

<kestrelwx>502

<spacematty>Has anyone ever successfully gotten Guix working as a Xen host?

<trev>codeberg down kestrelwx ?

<kestrelwx>Yeah.

<zynx>hi i have been trying to get a trunk bridge working under guix but no no matter what i do vlan_filtering always comes as 0. this is what i have on my config.scm now: (service static-networking-service-type (list (static-networking (links (list (network-link (name "virbr0") (type 'bridge) (arguments '(

<zynx>(vlan_filtering . 1)))))) (addresses '()))))

<zynx>virbr0 comes up after a herd restart networking but checking /sys on virbr0 for vlan_filtering comes back as 0

<zynx>can make it work with a custom shepherd-root-service-type but feels hackish :)

<Rutherther>zynx: what exactly did you change in the shepherd root service type?

<zynx>Rutherther: instead of having a static-networking for the bridge i create a custom service that manually issues the /sbin/ip commands

<zynx>like so: (start #~(lambda _ (let ((ip #$(file-append iproute "/sbin/ip"))) (invoke ip "link" "add" "name" "br0" "type" "bridge") (invoke ip "link" "set" "dev" "br0" "type" "bridge" "vlan_filtering" "1") (invoke ip "link" "set" "br0" "up")) #t))

<zynx>but yeah doesn't seem the right way of doing it but it works

<Rutherther>zynx: oh so you did not mean you replaced the shepherd root service type, just that you made your own service and extended shepherd root with it?

<zynx>Rutherther: sorry still trying to get round the correct wording but yeah that is right

<zynx> https://issues.guix.gnu.org/68595 <--- (arguments ... seems to be supported for bonds though

<zynx>probs missing something, first time playing with guix really

<Rutherther>zynx: I am afraid (guile netlink) - the library used with static-networking service, just does not support the vlan filtering argument

<Rutherther>zynx: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/1c91b6da this is the list of supported arguments

<Rutherther>I don't think your solution is hacky in any way, the static-networking does basically the same, except that it uses this library (guile netlink) instead of "ip" cli utility

<jlicht>hey guix

<jlicht>dthompson (or any other of the fine spritely folks): I'm bumping node-lts, and I'd like to know whether the guile-hoot package building building successfully mean things should Just Work (tm) or whether I need some additional sanity checks

<jlicht>s/building building/building, *means :)

<dthompson>jlicht: hey! yeah if hoot builds then we're good. the test suite runs against node.

<dthompson>good timing as I'm actually looking at node stuff rn

<dthompson>I am in need of the new wasm stack switching goodness and am trying to figure out what node releases (if any) have a fresh enough v8

<dthompson>jlicht: have you tried building any non-lts node releases?

<nox>> we have it at 0, so all good

<nox>trev, ahh, perfect :D

<drippynwah>hey folks, anyone know of libre-friendly wifi cards that do at least WiFi 5? all the ones marked supported rn are stuck on WiFi 4.

<untrusem-->hello guix, long time no chat

<ieure>Welcome back untrusem--!

<ieure>I see you've decremented while you were away.

<untrusem-->lol

<zynx>Rutherther: ah makes sense. might try and take a stab on getting it sorted on the library once i have some time. cheers!

<untrusem-->I have not guixed much these days

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