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<rekado>civodul: looks like a crash(?) in ext2fs: “BUG: unexpected fault on disk image (10, 0x8462080) in [0x8222000,0x18222000) eip 0x804f477 err 0xa <civodul>does it help if you throw more memory at it? <rekado>disk-pager.c:98: fault_handler: Assertion 'err' failed. <civodul>yeah, it could be its way of saying ‘please gimme more RAM’ <rekado>very articulate, that childhurd. <rekado>(FWIW, it had 1024 MiB of memory.) <rekado>I increased it to 4G and it’s building packages without problems now. <Natris1979>Hi all, is it possible to use guix from within a chroot'd environment? I'm currently running a chroot'd debian environment from inside an archlinux host. I installed guix, and when I try to run `guix install whatever` I get an error trying a access /var/guix/daemon-socket/socket which doesn't exist <Natris1979>I think it's because systemd isn't running inside the chroot'd environment <gorilla>Would it be idiomatic in Guix to create a package for a custom Nginx configuration? That is, a package that just contains the config files specific to some desired setup? <gorilla>Then use guix deploy to push that config onto multiple identical hosts? <gorilla>So that you could update and manage your Nginx version with one package, and your configuration version with a different package? <doriru>i'm gonna repost my question from earlier yesterday. hope it's alright <doriru>i'm having trouble during installation of guix system. i've tried asking about it before and was told it's a problem with 1.4.0, but the latest build isn't available for download. is there anything i can do to successfully install it? <podiki>doriru: it could be just a transient issue with downloading substitutes, I would rerun the command (looks like guix system init in this case) <podiki>or do you keep getting that error? <podiki>gorilla: i think the "guix way" here would be to have that configuration in the service configuration, that's how you define nginx configuration in guix <doriru>i used graphical installation, so i didn't get to do any command prompts after the error, only either starting the building from the start or going back to configuration. restarting the building resulted in the same error <doriru>didn't want to wast time, but i'll do manual tomorrow and hope it works <podiki>you can switch to a console and run the command it shows at the end to manually redo it i believe <podiki>or yeah, do the graphical as much as you want and can always switch to a tty to run any commands (manual install isn't hard either really, when i do i tend to spend time on the non guix things, like deciding partitions) <doriru>i tried pressing ctrl+f1 or f3. don't remember the combination now, but it didn't seem to work after certain point of installation proccess <podiki>you can see the command at the end of your image: "guix system init --fallback /mnt/etc/config.scm /mnt" <podiki>should always be able to switch, i forget which has the manual and which are shells <podiki>if you have another machine with guix (system or package manager) you can actually do it all from there if you pop out the drive you want to install to <doriru>i'll try it then. thanks for the tips! very helpful <podiki>welcome! that's what i did most recently, just partitioned the drive and then ran guix system init with a configuration (that i was testing in a vm first) to a partition (of course make sure you have the right boot partition) <apteryx>I've got a bash-static failure on core-updates; is it only me? <apteryx>triggered by trying to build just 'bash-minimal' <ulfvonbe`>do we have any way of using a git checkout with cargo-build-system? <ulfvonbe`>it seems to assume that the package-source *must* be a tarball <rekado>hmm, another crash in ext2fs when building gcc <rekado>‘refcount detected use-after-free!’ <janneke>ACTION hoped that with newer softwares, less of those <janneke>i usually had at most one of those in two days or something <rekado>I wonder: shouldn’t ext2fs ‘just’ restart after a crash, or does it not make sense to salvage the system at this point? <janneke>hmm (something like) that is often "advertised" as a plus of the hurd, just restart a server when it crashes <jonsger>ACTION appends "Year of Guix on Hurd" :) <civodul>futurile: just pushed notes from the funding session that Jonathan sent me <futurile>civodul: did you see my email to the guix-blog alias - with updated notes and a blog post to publish? <futurile>civodul: I don't know who's behind that alias so not sure if you are on it or not? <futurile>civodul: oh I see you did - 'opens mailbox' <civodul>futurile: i’m on it! it’s currently 5 people <civodul>maybe we should just use guix-patches though, for more transparency <futurile>I'll just correct the items you and zimoun suggested and send a new version. I get where the 'don't use gender' is coming from - I struggle with it because I'm old and it breaks the rules I was taught heh - so I'll just re-use the name (which breaks a different rule in English writing about repetition but oh well!) <rekado>I want to use etc/committer.scm in the yasnippets, to replace the awkward and limited heuristics implemented in the snippet <snape>is is normal that the mumi graphql interface is so slow? <snape>it takes like a whole minute to retrive infos for like 50 issues <snape>reply to my own question: "is:open package:guix-patches" from which I ask message ids takes 1m30 whereas "is:open" only takes 1 second <futurile>civodul: you should have an updated version in your inbox - but I just got a complaint in my email client - so tell me if you don't see it <futurile>civodul: yes, I think it's good to push. <futurile>maybe in future we can create a *short* style guide document, just to capture a few items <ulfvonbe`>mild annoyance: it's "copy-recursively", but "delete-FILE-recursively" <rekado>ulfvonbe`: yes, this keeps biting me. I can’t remember which is which. <rekado>civodul, futurile: sorry, I was out. I was happy with the draft, so happy you pushed it! <jpoiret>space2024: root's guix doesn't need to be updated on guix system <davidl__>Im looking for an example of a package with multiple origins - does anyone know of one? Else if you know if the source field can take a list of origins for example? <janneke>davidl__: the "nmon" package has multiple origins, eg <doriru>is bordeaux.guix.gnu.org a full mirror of ci.guix.gnu.com or are the packages split between these two sources? <doriru>ci.guix.gnu.com seems to be blocked for me, so i was wondering if i could specify bordeaux as the only source in the config <rekado>doriru: they are independent build farms <rekado>you can override the default substitute servers in the guix daemon configuration <rekado>once installed you can modify the guix-service-type <rekado>override the config with a guix-configuration that specifies a different substitute-urls <PotentialUser-72>Hello. Here is a quick noob question: following the Guix manual (on Guix 1.4 VM image), it is mentioned that the command "sudo guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm" would upgrade the system. However, I have no /etc/config.scm file. Should it exist? <apteryx>I think it'd exist if you had installed Guix System with its installed, but it's possible it doesn't in the VM <apteryx>what's the best software for viewing gigantic dependency graphs produced by 'guix graph' ? <apteryx>so far I'm generating SVGs and opening them in IceCat but maybe there's something nicer? <apteryx>ACTION looks at the pkg-config graph, tries to figure out where the two nested pkg-config come from <apteryx>I think one is a variant produced for gnu-make-final <PotentialUser-72>One more question, if I may: When I call "guix package --list-generations", I get a list of 4 items, that I believe to be related to my user's profile. It says I am at the 4th. <PotentialUser-72>When I call "guix system list-generations" I get only one generation, which I assume to be because I have no system update yet. <PotentialUser-72>But when I call "guix describe", it says "Generation 2". The help for the command talks about "information about the channels", but I am confused about what is being tracked through these generations. Is it related to the "guix pull" calls I made? <ieure>PotentialUser-72, Every time you `guix pull', that should create a new generation of your profile. System generations happen when you `sudo guix system reconfigure -- since you have no system config, you won't see new generations of that. <ieure>Actually, maybe I don't know how this works. <ieure>PotentialUser-72, IRC doesn't need @ style prefixes; it has them, but they designate channel operators. <ieure>I *think* there's a new generation in `guix describe' for each pull, and you get a new profile generation when you change the installed packages. <ieure>PotentialUser-72, If you're addressing a specific person, then yes. <apteryx>so there's the main pkg-config, then there's an ad-hoc pkg-config for gnu-make-final (in (gnu packages commencement)), then there's another pkg-config used by guile@3.0.9 (I presume guile-final) <doriru>can't build python-afdko during system installation for some reason <ulfvonbe`>do we have any dbus wizards around? What magic incantation do I need in order to run cdemu-daemon from an ssh session? <ulfvonbe`>'sudo -E cdemu-daemon' fails with 'cdemu: Daemon: D-Bus: failed to get proxy for 'org.freedesktop.DBus' on session bus: The connection is closed!' <ieure>(Not sure if this is during install or some time when it's difficult to get to the internet / paste what's on the screen) <doriru>i checked the log right after, but the text is corrupted for some reason <doriru>yeah, it's during installation on my laptop. mounting a flashdrive every time would be annoying <ae_chep>is `substitute-keyword-arguments` documented somewhere? <zeropoint>I've got two installs of guix on different disks and each time I run guix system reconfigure, each one overwrite the boot record of the other. Is this expected behavior? 
