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<lilyp>please tell me that's not a real thing <singpolyma>lilyp: why not? I assume most build systems use themselves <lilyp>Well, at the very least meson++ uses meson, so... <akonai>i believe that for example gnu make uses a shell script as a build system <devmsv>djeis: nothing, I have pasted the examples and when trying to use the new package definition I get the following error: https://paste.rs/OS6 <devmsv>I have put the package definitions before operating system declaration <lilyp>you are probably referring to your package by name instead of just passing on the variable <devmsv>Yes, I'm adding system packages with 'specification->package' procedure. Any way I can add this package as variable to that list? <lilyp>devmsv: it's a scheme list, you can use (cons your-package rest-of-the-list) to generate a new one <devmsv>I will continuous tomorrow as its really late . thanks everyone for the help and tips ***alMalsamo is now known as lumberjack123
<FlaminWalrus>I'm used to using startx from a tty, or configuring the shell to automatically run startx upon console login from a particular tty; how to set up the X server to work without a display manager is not obvious/documented. %base-packages with xorg-service-type added didn't seem to make startx or xinit work at all. Am I missing the right command, or is there a configuration change I need to make? <jackhill>wooo, I'm exited about the racket updated and related improvements! Thanks lilyp (and the other folks whose nicks I don't know)! <xelxebar>FlaminWalrus: FWIW, I am successfully running Guix without a login manager and just using startx. <xelxebar>FlaminWalrus: It's been a long time since I looked at how I got this working, but IIRC, creating an appropirate .xserverrc in your $HOME should Just Work. <xelxebar>Your operating-system configuration will need to use %base-services instead of %desktop-services, too. <xelxebar>But then you'll probably want to manually add back in several quality-of-life things. Ping me if you want and I can share my services definition. <Aurora_v_kosmose>Thank you Pierre Neidhardt for your work in debugging some Lisp asdf inputs. <Aurora_v_kosmose>Turns out your fix works on essentially all fukamachi packages that have the "*-test" not found issue. <Aurora_v_kosmose>This is mostly in case I forget to do a sweep, cleanup & fix a bunch and submit relevant patches. <FlaminWalrus>xelxebar: mind sharing that service definiton? I'd like to be sure any errors justify a rigourous debugging, and aren't just stupid misconfiguration of config.scm :) <roptat>I'm surprised how well I can build the core of intellij-sdk now :) <roptat>reading xml files to figure out which modules I need to build works great <ams-hash[m]>Can anyone help with this error. I am unable to boot the iso <lilyp>I don't think any of these errors ought to be boot-inhibiting ones <lilyp>have you tried the minimal setup? the gnome one typically doesn't start if your graphics card acts up <roptat>is this the iso you're booting, or the system that was installed from the iso? *roptat is building a new chain of kotlins <roptat>hopefully, I can build up to kotlin 0.6.470, from june 2015 ^^' <lilyp>nice, could that then be used to build gradle from june 2015? <roptat>I want to see if I can go further, I was blocked at some 0.11 release, but managed to build the missing dependency <roptat>although, at some point I need xmlbeans which I haven't bootstrapped yet <roptat>I'll try to go as far as possible without building gradle <lilyp>makes sense, one can of worms at a time <roptat>gradle might not be too hard, but it wouldn't be useful to build it too soon <roptat>I prefer to build it when it's needed <ams-hash[m]>I get an error (file-system (device "/dev/nvme0n1p1") (mount-point "/boot/efi") (type "vfat")): invalid field specifier ***stampirl_ is now known as stampirl
<rndd>Lumine: hi, dont work for me (ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT) <rndd>Well, long story short - i am currently in Moscow. And site is accessible with vpn. So i came to ask is your site blocked for russians? Cause this problem is not about rusian isp i use (at least right now). <ams-hash[m]>How long does it usually take to build, it's been in the checks phase for a while <roptat>ams-hash[m], it depends on the package it's building :) <jlicht>guix-installed programs that have a gsettings-desktop-schemas entry added to XDG_DATA_DIRS in their binary wrapper seem to have issues running graphical host-distro programs (as those now try to start using guix's glibc, instead of the host's) <jlicht>no, actually, it's the GIO_EXTRA_MODULES that gives trouble <gnoo>there was a recent blog post about using guix with tex and latex with profiles but i can't find it anymore <gnoo>does anyone have a link to it? <Haider>I have noticed the new glad package in guix which is quite useful in my case. The only problem I have is that my c++ file cant actually find glad. <SeerLite[m]>Hi! Currently vim-full tries to add a flag to #:make-flags with substitute-keyword-arguments on ones inherited from vim. But since vim has no make-flags, it doesn't get "modified" and no flag is added. <SeerLite[m]>Should substitute-keyword-arguments maybe create the argument if it doesn't exist? <nckx>rndd: Some IP ranges are blocked by the institution that hosts the servers. Some of these abusive IPs are Russian, but not Russia as a whole I believe. <nckx>I can imagine that abusive traffic from Russia's through the roof right now so the effect might be the same. <xelxebar>You'll probably want to reference gnu/services/desktop.scm to see what some of those actually are. <phf-1>where "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" is the cuirass server ip <pkal>What is the easiest way to modify the native-inputs of a package when inheriting? <phf-1>pkal, there is a modify-inputs helper used in gnu/packages/ssh.scm <phf-1>pkal, chances are that a similar helper exists for native-inputs <phf-1>pkal, Well, there is that `(modify-inputs (package-native-inputs guile-ssh)' in `gnu/packages/ssh.scm' so, that's how it should be done I guess. <phf-1>sneek later tell lfaim looking at the tests in `guix-cuirass/tests/remote.scm' we learn that the `(server "...")' field should be filled witht the ip and the port, not just the ip. I guess an example would help in the documentation like `(server "127.0.0.1:5555")' <pkal>SeerLite[m]: phf-1: Ok, from reading the manual I had the impression that that macro couldn't be used there. <singpolyma>ams-hash[m]: you will need to find a channel that supports it, such as nonguix <singpolyma>Discussion of it is off topic here but other channels have their own discussion venues <Lumine>Hello, I'm trying to figure out why system wide declaration of keyboard layout defaults to the US layout under i3 and xmonad, they ignore the configuration <Lumine>I tried using xkbcli to change the layout but it does not find mine, and the documentation for xkvcli was very sparse <nckx>ams-hash[m]: No need to apologise either :-) <lilyp>the_tubular: it's mostly boring declaration work <the_tubular>I might try my hand at it, but I'll probably run into a few errors ^^' <ams-hash[m]>After I've made a change to my cofnig file how do i rebuild the system <Haider>sudo guix system reconfigure /path/to/config.scm <roptat>mh, kotlin is giving me some troubles :/ <roptat>I get a methodnotfoundexception, but the method both in the bootstrap and in the source code I'm compiling... <helaoban>Hey guix, I'm looking for clarificatino on the use of `guix home`, the docs say that the packages listed in the 'packages' field of 'home-environment' are installed into the user's profile. <roptat>the first version that has this method is 0.11.153, and it builds fine, but then it can't rebuild itself... <Lumine>Okay, didn't realise setxkbmap was in the GNU packages, just not on the system by default, so my problem is not a problem anymore <helaoban>But from what I gather the "user's profile" that is referred to here is the profile saved in ~/.guix-home/profile, and is distinct from ~/.guix-profile <helaoban>So I need to make sure that ~/.guix-home/profile/bin is in my system to pick up the binaries, and this is not managed for me by `guix home`, is that correct? <maximed>sneek: later tell apteryx: I sent a v5 of the patch series for reducing the number of false positives of 'check-tests-true' (+ some #:tests? fixes): https://issues.guix.gnu.org/50299 (only difference with the v4 is a rebase) <helaoban>nevermind! I am an idiot, literally the next page in the documentation addresses this! <Aurora_v_kosmose>So I have a series of commits adding a bunch of dependencies for a package & a package. How would you recommend I submit those as patches? <Aurora_v_kosmose>Individual patch series "Adding XYZ" or one "Adding XYZ & dependencies [n/m]"? <lilyp>Aurora_v_kosmose: individual patches please <unmatched-paren>what do i do if a git clone for a package returns an error about http/0.9? <unmatched-paren>error: Received HTTP/0.9 when not allowed (curl_result = 1, http_code = 0, sha1 = 0d1a5ca50d2ecd81e145a83f2661516d840c59f9) <Aurora_v_kosmose>> 1 Unsupported protocol. This build of curl has no support for this protocol. <Aurora_v_kosmose>If it does map, then that'd make sense. If it doesn't map, then back to step 1. <unmatched-paren>git://c9x.me/qbe.git works, but bizarrely the resulting repo is completely empty <unmatched-paren>weirder, when i `git clone` the above git:// link, it works fine, but not when guix does it <Aurora_v_kosmose>I don't think it maps. With curl I get an HTTP/1.1 connection with TLSv1.3 <unmatched-paren>yeah, but it looks like the git clone is retried full if it fails to do a shallow clone <unmatched-paren>in the guix log: Failed to do a shallow fetch; retrying a full fetch... <Aurora_v_kosmose>> error: Received HTTP/0.9 when not allowed\n\t(curl_result = 1, http_code = 0, sha1 = f95661aa437f3bcdaf88a1c64dc408ee79fbe436) <unmatched-paren>the two github mirrors i can find are unmaintained and don't have the latest commits <Aurora_v_kosmose>git://c9x.me/qbe.git This one works. However you can say good-bye to transport security. <Aurora_v_kosmose>unmatched-paren: Hm, would Guix have chosen not to implement git:// support? Seems possible. In any case, I strongly recommend emailing the author. They're still active <f1refly>when i try to execute ./bootstrap on my freshly cloned guix repo autoconf complains about 'configure.ac:91: error: possibly undefined macro: PKG_CHECK_MODULES' <f1refly>are there additional steps to do before executing ./bootstrap? <f1refly>I'm following the instructions from running-guix-before-it-is-installed to update a package from the reop <jpoiret>f1refly: did you make sure to use `guix shell -D guix`? <jpoiret>you need guix's dependencies to build it <f1refly>would I need to do that again befor invoking guix refresh --update? <f1refly>because my invokation fails with "guix refresh: error: mkstemp: Read-only file system" <maximed>f1refly: "guix refresh -u" modifies the package definitions in place <f1refly>yes, and i'm in my own checkout of the guix repo in my user dir, so that should work, right? <maximed>as such, you can only run in from a git checkout (./pre-inst-env guix refresh --update) (with some exceptions, e.g. GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH & -L) <maximed>f1refly: yes, just make sure to do the ./pre-inst-env <maximed>Such that it tries to modify the package definitions in the git checkout and not the package definitions of the guix in the user profile <maximed>f1refly: also, I don't think that `guix shell -D guix` is strictly required, but it can be very useful (and probably better-tested) <f1refly>guix shell -D guix was required for ./bootstrap <f1refly>to get the guix utils independent from the system <maximed>f1refly, eer, interesting. Maybe try "make && ./pre-inst guix refresh --update alacritty"? <nckx>It's not strictly required, but without it it's your own responsibility to manually install the compatible versions of each Guix dependency. <f1refly>when submitting the package I'd send the patch to the patches mailing list, right? <ryanprior[m]>I want to include various dotfiles and git repositories as part of my home configuration. I read the Guix home manual and don't see a way to include arbitrary dotfiles, directories, git repos - am I missing something? Do I need to write my own services for those things? <civodul>ryanprior[m]: hi! currently you can do that by extending home-files-service-type <civodul>that might change in the future because it's a source of confusion <ryanprior[m]>It would be handy to document it under home-services too, I read all the nodes there and home-files-service isn't mentioned <ryanprior[m]>I looked in the repo for mentions of `home-files-service` and don't see much in the way of definition or examples either XX I do see in the tests for home a "simple-service" that extends home-files-service-type. <ryanprior[m]>It uses "plain-file," I wonder if there's "plain-directory" or similar, or maybe some way to specifically declare a checkout of a git repo like you can in a package origin. <civodul>yeah some Home things are still missing from the manual, in some cases because things are still in flux <civodul>regarding Git checkouts, you can use an origin record <civodul>jonsger: i was going to suggest that to you ↑ <Noisytoot>How can the gcc-objc package actually be used? gcc fails with "Objective-C compiler not installed on this system" if I try to compile any Objective-C code. <f1refly>jesus christ rust crates sprawl like a plague <f1refly>i feel like i'm currently defining packages for all of crates.io 