<lfam>If your network hardware isn't supported by linux-libre, and you're still actually using linux-libre... that's weird. Because even if you provide the firmware for your hardware, linux-libre won't let you use it
<lfam>So, you can't somehow mix installations and have it work
<lfam>linux-libre breaks loading of nonfree firmware
<lfam>Regarding EFI, it sounds like maybe the partitioning isn't set up correctly? Did you make the vfat partition, put the correct UUID in config.scm, and use grub-efi-bootloader?
<lfam>But, I'm not very experienced with EFI. I might not have understood your situation correctly
<lfam>15 minutes to boot is somewhat extreme... Guix System boots at a similar speed to other distros before systemd came around. But 15 minutes is crazy, unless it's a really complicated system
<lfam>I think it's normal for it to take 2 or 3 minutes
<lfam>I'm curious, what hardware is it that isn't supposed to work?
<the_tubular>Still booting, I'm about to give up and just let it stay in BIOS ...
<lfam>My old thinkpad x200 reports a CPU temp of 70C at idle, which does seem high
<lfam>I wonder if there is a nice tool for comparing kernel configurations? There used to be kccmp but it depended on Qt 4
<lfam>There is 'scripts/diffconfig' in the kernel source code
<dstolfa>lfam: yaeh i'm really unsure as to what's causing it. i thought it was just the laptop having issues with some workloads, but they are perfectly fine on any other distribution, including fully libre ones
<lfam>Assuming it's really idle during these periods, it's probably something about how we build the kernel. It would be nice to find out
<dstolfa>agreed. it'd also be nice to know why i'm not seeing any of this behavior on my desktop
<lfam>Might also try one of the older Guix kernel versions
<dstolfa>lfam: so, reading that link from kernel.org, it seems to me like schedutil is the best one for automated frequency scaling, whereas userspace gives users a lot of choice as to what they want to use and could help with things like tlp and thermald
<lfam>Sure, and users can always change it, anyways. We just need to pick a sensible default
<jackhill>MysteriousSilver: also to be clear, while we're excited to be working with Hurd, linux-libre is not being deprecated, that was an April Fools joke. Not saying you were confused, but it was apparently a sucessful fool for some folks
<drakonis>yeah i've seen some people think it was really deprecated
<jackhill>yeah, I guess it doesn't help that hyperbola (I think) actually wanted to deprecate it. I guess the best jokes have a kernel (pun inteded!) of truth.
<drakonis>they saw the title and thought it was for real
<drakonis>instead of checking the date it was published
<dstolfa>sneek: later tell lfam: yeah, i tried doing that through `cpupower`, but it said only two governors were available -- performance and powersave. powersave wasn't exactly great either because it would downclock me to the minimum frequency, and i have to keep manually adjusting it. i wonder if our kernel configuration should simply compile all of them in as modules and let the user choose which governor they
<dstolfa>sneek: later tell lfam: want to use through something like `cpupower` with the default being something like ONDEMAND or SCHEDUTIL which seems to be the popular choice amongst the "big" distros?
<mfg>Hi, leoprikler showed me the other day, how i can use cross-gcc in a manifest to get a cross compiler, i tried with th target riscv32-linux-gnu and got this error http://paste.debian.net/1204338/. What exactly does this mean and what can i do about it?
<sneek>lfam, dstolfa says: yeah, i tried doing that through `cpupower`, but it said only two governors were available -- performance and powersave. powersave wasn't exactly great either because it would downclock me to the minimum frequency, and i have to keep manually adjusting it. i wonder if our kernel configuration should simply compile all of them in as modules and let the user choose which governor they
<sneek>lfam, dstolfa says: want to use through something like `cpupower` with the default being something like ONDEMAND or SCHEDUTIL which seems to be the popular choice amongst the "big" distros?
<Noisytoot>In what package are man pages for C library functions and system calls?
<dstolfa>lfam: i've read a bit on how linux handles intel pstates, and i think you're correct to assume that the high temps are being caused by `performance` as default and that `powersave` would resolve all issues. i'll give it a test when i get some time. thanks :)
<lfam>Cool dstolfa. I'm probably going to change the default in the kernel updates that will land today or tomorrow
<dstolfa>Noisytoot: probably man-pages, i'd assume at least?
<old>Does anyone know a channel for an Ethereum wallet?
<bauermann>hi! is there anyone currently looking at the gcc-11 cross-build failures reported by the CI on the core-updates branch? if not, I'll poke at them and see if I can find something out
<maximed>bauerman: Not that I'm aware of, though you may want to wait a little to allow others to respond
<bauermann>maximed, ok, thanks! the error on the armhf build is either the same or similar to the one on the powerpc build, so these cross failures could have the same root cause. the hurd one looks different though
<the_tubular>I'm having trouble formatting guile could someone help me ?