<bdju>anyone have experience changing system-wide date/time format via locale stuff? I am in the US but I want Y-M-D dates and 24 hour time. *some* programs don't let you configure these directly and just use your locale settings apparently.
<sneek>civodul, daviid says: that define-method creates a generic if it does not exist is part of the (clos) protocol, changing that would be a very serious break (in the protocol) - also note that it is an error to redefine a generic, and unfortunately guile did break the protocol wrt that, guile does not raise an exception if one redefines a generic (very unfortunately, I have no idea why it breaks that fundamental part of the protocol)
<profmakx>(I also seem to have installed guix-sd on a rockpro eMMC last night, so there's that)
<wehlutyk>Does `guix build --rounds=2 --check <package>` automatically report non-determinism in builds or should I manually check the hashes? (the second build is soon over but the logs of the first one were too long to still have them in the terminal window, and I didn't store them on files. Each build takes 2 days so I'd like to avoid starting again)
<dannym>janneke: About the setjmp--the only "problem", if you can call it that, in implementing setjmp is that the ABI used determines which registers you have to save (... and know that exist in the first place)
<dannym>janneke: Otherwise it's easy to implement; but every time we switch from ABI to EABI or from EABI to EABI with VFP or whatever, the set of registers changes
<dannym>It's just a matter of having the right #if or something
<janneke>bash is compiled without debug info...let's fix that first
<PotentialUser-41>Hey ! I destroyed my bootloader due to false usage of guix init (I thought I could initialize a system on a external HD that I intended to use in another machine, but it overrode my current bootloader). Now I cannot boot anymore. How do I restore it ? I booted from a guix install usb ... is there something like guix init --bootloader-only or some s
<roptat>bandali, I sent a short message to say we fixed the copyright/license issues
<bandali>roptat, great, got it! i'll try to set aside some time over the next few days on the task. for future cases, please feel free to double check and/or followup either on the tracker or via direct email if you don't end up hearing from any of the savannah hackers :-)
<apteryx>perhaps we should just ship the locales out of the box and get done with it
<apteryx>en_US.utf-8 doesn't require any locale package to be intalled, correct?
<bandali>i think you'd still need the smaller glibc-utf8-locales package, no?
<maav>apteryx: on guix system the configured locale should be already available, on guix itself you always need at least one locale installed to change from LC_ALL=C
<apteryx>although the systemd installed service from the install script sets the environment with: "Environment='GUIX_LOCPATH=/var/guix/profiles/per-user/root/guix-profile/lib/locale' LC_ALL=en_US.utf8", the daemon would still complain about locale, I reckon because the lib/locale directory specified did not exist until installing a locale package.
<madage>ride: IMO they are very helpful since they focus on the most important points
<madage>but they do not cover everything that is in the book
<Noisytoot>The application setup mentions "font-gnu-freefont", which does not exist, although there is a "font-gnu-freefont-ttf"
<Noisytoot>s/application setup/Application Setup section of the manual/
<Noisytoot>civodul: In other graphical programs installed with Guix (DrRacket) the fonts work fine, just not in IceCat
<pinoaffe>Noisytoot: I've also had a couple of font issues with icecat in guix (and I recall several others coming to this channel with issues), but I don't recall any magic incantation that can be used to fix it
<leoprikler>There is no single magic incantation, it actually consists of installing a font with good Unicode coverage (any will do), plus refreshing the cache.
<leoprikler>I believe numbers where buggy at some point, but no longer are (hopefully?).
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<civodul>Noisytoot: could it be that you need 'font-dejavu'?
<dannym>dongcarl: I can only suggest strace and/or gdb to find out what it does. I've debugged my fair share of weird issues, and that's what I usually use.