<roptat>what are prerequisites for being able to use a specific --target in guix? <roptat>I'm trying to run "guix build hello --target=x86_64-linux-android", but it fails with dynamic linker name not known for this system "x86_64-android" <roptat>does that mean there's a support missing somewhere in guix? <mbakke>roptat: it means there is no bootstrapping path for x86_64-android, see (gnu packages bootstrap) <roptat>even though I'm using --target and not --system? <roptat>ah, I think I see what's happening, thanks for the pointer! <dftxbs3e>nckx, is it OK to skip reproducible builds for now for powerpc64le-linux-gnu? It's been the major blocker in marusich's work <dftxbs3e>nckx, if you can merge that patch on this issue against master, please do.. <dftxbs3e>The wip-ppc64le branch will be more useful for later changes relating to individual softwares not compiling <nckx>dftxbs3e: I'm just about to go to bed. Thanks for the answer. Non-repro: that's fine for now, for the wip-ppc64le branch. <roptat>also I managed to write the missing low-level bits of the rtnetlink protocol, so I'm going to write the high-level bits now <Formbi>but I don't understand what it does :( <roptat>for now, it only gets a manifest from android sources and uses it to learn which repositories to clone; then it clones them all in a directory. next step is to list all Android.bp files, parse them and return a list of packages that build each component. <roptat>that means writing a blueprint-build-system, and I do have a plan for that :) <db48x>does anyone know what needs to be installed for python3's urllib to be able to verify SSL certificates? <db48x>I tried installing nss-certs <db48x>(this is just guix, not a guix system) ***daviid is now known as Guest64948
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<wleslie>I have a cross compiler with libgcc and some custom crtfiles built, but the cross compiler is trying to link against crtfiles from the native glibc for some reason <wleslie>can I remove these from the load path, somehow? <wleslie>maybe - is there a macro for changing the %current-target-system for some dependencies? maybe that will remove native libraries from the load path... *wleslie looks at (guix build-system gnu) <wleslie>I hacked a thing with `package-with-explicit-inputs` of which I'm surely missing several <wleslie> https://bpa.st/GCEA I've just added the (cross-package) function and now a request to build just hangs, nothing after a note about some source files newer than compiled files <abcdw>roptat, Will we do some kind of test call before tomorrow? <wleslie>replaced that function, now just using (arguments '(#:implicit-inputs? #f)) <wleslie>:/ so newlib depends on crtfiles but there's no package for it in my store <wleslie>and the crtfile location is passed as a configure argument <wleslie>ok, removed the single quotes from the configure-flags CFLAGS and now it configures and I get to figure out why it doesn't make <roptat>abcdw, we tested it with zimoun, but if you want to test it too, we can do it <abcdw>roptat, yep, I would like to check everything working. <abcdw>If you have free time today, please let me know. <sss2>hi all, why guix installer does not have option to configure network manually ?, requirement of dhcp server is a problem ... ***sneek_ is now known as sneek
<mroh>db48x: something like `export SSL_CERT_DIR=/etc/ssl/certs` should help. <roptat>I'm cloning the android source repositories... I'm amazed: one of them takes 2.1G even though I'm doing a shallow clone *nckx can't reach into your client, as much as I'd like to. <nckx>Does it include the Linux kernel? That alone's close to 2GiB nowadays. <nckx>Mine is 2.9 but it's full of crap. <roptat>oh, that's prebuilts/clang/linux-x86 <nckx>Versioned-controlled binaries means reproducibility. <roptat>I doubt it's really sources, from the name ^^ <roptat>well yeah, if everyone downloads the same binary, it's reproducible, right? <roptat>I should probably prevent it from downloading these prebuilts <roptat>it's a separate repository, so not running git can do that <roptat>30 GB already and I need to clone 649 more repos... <OriansJ>roptat: clearly need a bunch more 100TB SSD drives <roptat>yeah, and I can't guix gc more than that... <roptat>how do you change a parameter in guile? <giaptx`>Hello everyone, I'm trying to setup Guix as main OS replace my Debian <giaptx`>I see guix had unbound package, but doesn't provide unbound service <roptat>ok, I set %repository-cache-directory to my 2TB HDD, that should help ^^' <giaptx`>So do I have to define a new unbound-service-type? <roptat>indeed, we don't have an unbound service type yet, so if you want unbound, you'll need to create the service yourself <roptat>there's the knot-resolver-service-type that seems to do something similar to unbound though, if you're willing to use something else ***giaptx` is now known as giaptx
<roptat>defining a service is not necessarily too complicated: the easiest way to do it is to follow what the opensmtpd-service-type does: you only provide an option for selecting the package and a configuration file, and you run unbound with that file <roptat>it's much nicer if you provide an actual record type with all the configuration options, but that'll take more time to create :) <giaptx>it is a good suggestion to begin <roptat>so, without any prebuilt, android is 26GB of sources <roptat>you need to watch them before the conference if you want to participate <brettgilio>It was a regression introduced when we moved to ocaml 4.11.c <brettgilio>So we could cherry pick that commit to fix it as a patch, or bump the commit. Either way would fix the test cases <zzappie>roptat: yes watching them right now :) <roptat>brettgilio, yes, could you extract that fix and make a patch from it? <mdevos>Does someone have an idea why my frama-c-gui doesn't find ocamlgraph? <mdevos>error message: [kernel] User Error: [findlib] package 'ocamlgraph' not found (required by `frama-c.kernel') <mdevos>huh, I could swear manually adding ocaml-graph to the environment (guix enviroment --ad-hoc) used to work <mdevos>odd, if I add the build-time dependencies of ocaml-graph frama-c-gui runs fine (guix environment ocaml-graph --ad-hoc -l ./ocaml.scm -- frama-c-gui) <zzappie>ha mdevos you are not the first trying to package frama-c :) I did too. There is already patch 38635 *mdevos makes mental note to search for pre-existing patches in the future <roptat>not that it works either, but hey :) <zzappie>mdevos: I think I've encountered same issue. I remember there were handwritten lines to find some of dependencies not sure If its your problem too. Didn't find my notes on it. <roptat>maybe using wrap-program could help? *zzappie think I dropped the stash accidentally <db48x>mroh: thanks. that's one of the first things I tried, but with no success <giaptx>Could you help me how can I load it? <roptat>so this is a guile module. A guile module has a name, here (guix services dns), and it's related to the filename: here you should name it guix/services/dns.scm <roptat>then, when reconfiguring, you should add the directory that contains guix/services/dns.scm in your load-path, by adding -L /path/to/parent/of/guix <roptat>adding a (use-module (guix services dns.scm)) should work <roptat>in my own config for instance, I have a directory called modules that contain these modules <roptat>so I add -L modules when reconfiguring <roptat>its module name is (services gitile) <giaptx>You mean using `guix system reconfigure` with `-L` <roptat>yes, I do guix system reconfigure -L modules my-config.scm <roptat>obviously that's because I have a directory named "modules", you should use -L <name-of-your-directory> instead (could be "." for instance) <giaptx>I will try it tomorrow. I have to go to bed now =)). I'm in GMT+7 <jorge[m]>Saludos comunidad,tengo un error al finalizar mi descarga alguna idea ? Greetings community, I have an error at the end of my download any ideas? *zzappie just watched Mathieu's talk, very cool. <efraim>jorge[m]: You can ignore that error <nckx>dftxbs3e: I think we should not add known-irreproducible bootstrap binaries to master. <nckx>‘Building the following 5300 packages would ensure 12902 dependent packages are rebuilt’ ☺ <jorge[m]><mdevos "jorge: any other errors?"> Si al final no reconoce el wi fi y hasta alli llego <dftxbs3e>nckx, the reason why they are not reproducible seems to be really really obscure, see guix-devel messages <dftxbs3e>nckx, libffi, I guess but that patch should only affect powerpc64le-linux-gnu, it's about to be available from an upstream release whenever they decide to make one <mdevos>jorge[m]: (I do not speak Spanish) Do you mean the wi fi is not recognised? <dftxbs3e>nckx, let's merge all of this into wip-ppc64le but the concern is that constantly rebasing code onto master becomes really troublesome <mdevos>jorge[m]: I presume you are in the process of installing Guix System <jorge[m]><mdevos "jorge: (I do not speak Spanish) "> si <mdevos>jorge[m]: Or has Guix System been installed, and do you have trouble accessing the Internet? <mdevos>jorge[m]: if you don't particularily care about how you access the Internet, and your computer has an ethernet port, you could use that instead <jorge[m]><mdevos "jorge: Or has Guix System been i"> no,se queda reconociendo pero no avanza. <mdevos>jorge[m]: ok, you are in the installer. I can't say I'm very familiar with the installer, so I am guessing mostly <jorge[m]><mdevos "jorge: ok, you are in the instal"> si en el instalador <mdevos>jorge[m]: I had Wi-Fi trouble too when installing Guix, so I used ethernet instead. I don't know if that is suitable for you <mdevos>jorge[m]: and I figured out the Wi-Fi problems once Guix was installed <jorge[m]><mdevos "jorge: I had Wi-Fi trouble too w"> como lo ago ? <mdevos>jorge[m]: do you mean how to use ethernet? <mdevos>jorge[m]: or how to fix Wi-Fi problems? <jorge[m]><mdevos "jorge: or how to fix Wi-Fi probl"> como uso el ethernet ? <mdevos>jorge[m]: I believe all you have to do is plug in the cable <nckx>dftxbs3e: #44778 as written would have to pass through core-updates because it rebuilds 12902 packages (guix refresh -l libffi). It might (and often is) possible to rewrite patches so they have no effect on other architectures, in which case wip-ppc64le could go straight to master *if* it works perfectly. That includes reproducible bootstrap binaries. <nckx>dftxbs3e: Is there public discussion about their irreproducibility? <mdevos>jorge[m]: but it has been quite some time ago, I may have forgotten some steps <nckx>mdevos: Did you have a GNUnet presentation or did I dream that? <mdevos>nckx: I don't have a GNUnet presentation <mdevos>nckx: but I am working on some GNUnet patches <nckx>mdevos: That's still super cool news. <dustyweb>for people stringing together multiple .scm files in the same directory, do you just hack your $GUILE_LOAD_PATH at launch-time? <mdevos>jorge[m]: is ethernet working fine, or are there more problems? <dustyweb>GUILE_LOAD_PATH="$GUILE_LOAD_PATH:`pwd`" guix foo -f myfile.scm <zzappie>dustyweb: isn't -L just for that purpose? <jorge[m]><mdevos "jorge: is ethernet working fine,"> no lo se, toca leer <dustyweb>it's... amazing how long I can go without knowing about things in guix sometimes ;) <zzappie>dustyweb: Yeah thas why I put question mark. -L is in 80% of my guix commands :) <sss2>no, i do not want switch to aes <civodul>sss2: good question, it looks like we're lacking a way to choose ciphers on the client side <efraim>there's another patch for libffi and powerpc on the 1.2.0 branch <mdevos>sneek: make my homework and transfer knowledge into my brain <dftxbs3e>apparently that's for powerpc64-linux-gnu binaries but I assume it's the same for both endians <nckx>sss2: Guix respects .ssh/config. Add ‘Ciphers chacha20-poly1305@openssh.com’ there. <sss2>nckx, but how to set it properly on non-guix host ? <sss2>or guix have force aes by default ? <nckx>The same? ~/.ssh/config isn't Guix-specific. <nckx>dftxbs3e: Take a look at commit 02f5ee01c96589fc13f1e21b85b0b48100aec4e8. <sss2>i mean, host ssh client works, and guix not, so i guess this is borken defaults ? <sss2>nckx, yes, looks like broken defaults, does work with forced cipher in config <nckx>If you want the defaults changed, please file a bug, but that wasn't clear from your paste. <nckx>I don't think Guix has anything to do with this, but libssh. <sss2>probably, i do not know design in details sorry <nckx>sss2: Yeah, Guix doesn't specify any defaults. <nckx>Go ahead and report your wishes and we can always forward them if needed. <sss2>libssh, i thought it was openssh wrapped <sss2>now i am trying to setup offloading (second attempt) <sss2>can't make it load profile ( *nckx glad Guix resists the OpenSSH monoculture if this is the tiny price to pay. <nckx>Good thing my client colours nicks. <nckx>sss2: I'm afraid I've never set up offloading involving non-Guix Systems before. Which host isn't Guix System? <sss2>probably some system-based profiles corrupot environments <sss2>or it just does not read at all <nckx>My 2 previous distro's, you'd think I'd have tonnes of ideas, but, erm, no. <sss2>have no bashrc at all on this account <sss2>it is dedicated for offloading <sss2>i have this problem for both bash and zsh <dftxbs3e>nckx, yep.. should modify the condition to also include powerpc64 <sss2>nckx, nah, kust symlinked guix to /usr/bin/ <sss2>for example guix offload: warning: The 'system' field is deprecated, please use 'systems' instead. <raghavgururajan>Is there a field in package-definition to include a hint message for user? <raghavgururajan>Like, when a user installs the package, they will see the hint at the end. <sys2>is anyone else failing to build vhphki5sg9xkdhh2pbc8gi6vhpfzryf0-gnutls-3.6.12 right now? I'm thinking this is because of old packages I've modified and built... but I'm not sure how to remove/update those to the newest versions <rekado>drummers with convenient access to a drum set that can be recorded somewhat quickly? <rekado>(or alternatively: those who are familiar with a drum machine :)) <efraim>I added a dummy guix in /usr/local/bin/guix on my G4 <zimoun>roptat: I have just watched your talks, impressive! <nckx>sss2: Note the /devel/. Without it, you're reading the manual for 1.1.eekthatsold, which is old. <zimoun>roptat, nckx: I do not know how to multi-query <roptat>I don't think that's possible, we need our own chan for that, right? <nckx>roptat: Are you not reading zimoun's privmsgs. <roptat>only when I can read from his shoulders, but I'm too far away for that ;) *raghavgururajan wonders whats happening <zzappie>BTW what's about tomorrow's BoFs. I haven't used BBB before. I'll be able to join with just public link? <ryanprior>BBB requires a web browser like Firefox or Chromium and a decent amount of bandwidth. <ryanprior>There's no nonfree JavaScript and it's designed to facilitate easy public participation in educational and organizational settings. <roptat>it works well on icecat from guix at least <zimoun>but yeah it needs a bit of bandwith <nckx>sss2: Did you find everything you needed there? <sss2>nckx, i guess, at least corrected deprecated settings <sss2>now i need to configure system to always offload everything possible <sss2>also i am still unable to load profile for non-interactive shell <sss2>workarounded it with symkinks for now <rekado>I won’t be able to join tomorrow; haven’t even managed to watch the talks yet :-/ <sss2>nckx, # guix archive --authorize < master-public-key.txt - where is "master-public-key.txt" <sss2>as i understand, it's key generated by guix archive --generate-key <civodul>zimoun, roptat: oh i just realized, we don't have the BBB URL yet, do we? :-) <civodul>oh got your messages in the meantime <roptat>right, but I just pushed a website update <roptat>mh... if we're lucky we have 1 hour to fix that ^^' <roptat>I mean, it's not too bad if we use fosshost domain, is it? <nckx>sss2: I guess you found out by now that the key is the remote /etc/guix/signing-key.pub. That... is an extremely unhelpful error with which I cannot help you. <sss2>i can't find how to obtain more information <nckx>sss2: Does ‘sudo -i ssh [-p N] <remote offload user>@192.168.0.2’ work? <nckx>I use it as a quick hack to add the public (SSH) key to known_hosts. *nckx needs to AFK once more. <civodul>roptat: i think it's ok to use a fosshost.org URL <civodul>if we wanted to have fun, we could add an entry in dns.scm <roptat>I think it's too late, we'd have to ask fooshost to add an entry in their server too, to connect this url to our instance <zimoun>civodul: just updated I guess. And explanations are coming. We are a bit late. As usual. ;-) <cbaines>I don't think enum34 is an input to gajim itself, but it could be in your profile maybe <ngz>Oh my! Seahorse adventures is failing! :) <zimoun>roptat: is it possible to change the banner? And add the link in? <ngz>I don't know how to get to the build log, though. <zimoun>do you do directly or do I send patch? <cbaines>ngz, paradoxically, the log is for a completed build. I think this can happen with Cuirass, where you get a log for a different build <ngz>That's what I was wondering. <cbaines>Ok, seahorse-adventures is pretty dangerous, running it changed my display resolutions and orientations, and I've only just managed to fix things! <ngz>Yes, we need to be extra careful with this package, we might even consider delaying the release of the next Guix. <roptat>pushing, as soon as I can resolve git.sv.gnu.org again... <roptat>herd invalidate nscd doesn't work btw <roptat>(by that I mean, I still can resolve after that, but it might be doing something) <nckx>Hmm, running seahorse-adventures replaced my guix-daemon with a copy of seahorse-adventures. <nckx>Good night, sweet #guix o/ <cbaines>raghavgururajan, what do you get if you run: python3 -c "import enum; print(enum.IntFlag)" <raghavgururajan>cbaines: Oh wait, I tried running Gajim in a --pure env. Seems to work. <raingloom>is there no %inputs to go with %outputs? ,:| (i need it for #:configure-flags) <mroh>gn8, nckx, sweet seahorse dreams ;) <cbaines>raghavgururajan, right, are you sure enum34 isn't on your PYTHONPATH? <cbaines>raghavgururajan, if it's not that, what version is python3, and what else is on your PYTHONPATH? <rekado>any guitarist or keyboardist interested in contributing to what might become a Guix song? <raghavgururajan>But I wonder why it didn't work on --pure env with gajim and gajim-omemo. <cbaines>Maybe check the PYTHONPATH/profile directory in the pure environment? <cbaines>That will at least confirm if it doesn't work in a pure environment for the same reason <cbaines>Ok, so I'd look in that directory to find out which packages it has files from <raghavgururajan>/gnu/store/0vvyj0i1q6xlw4553bn26a190xzzccm9-profile/lib/python3.8/site-packages <cbaines>If you're looking a site-packages directory, enum is the directory in there from enum34 (you can check this by checking the symlink) <cbaines>I guess it could be breaking differently in the pure environment then... <cbaines>Unfortunately I need to get some sleep now, need to try and be awake tomorrow! 