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<alextee[m]>offtopic: does anyone by any chance speak chinese? someone added a translation to the "zrythm" string, but that's the name of the project. is it common in chinese to translate brand names and things like that?
<mehlon>usually brand names in Chinese are adapted in a way that sounds like the original word and has some connection in meaning
<mehlon>but someone has to decide which specific translation to use, since there's plenty of ways to do it
<alextee[m]>ah i see, that's the impression i got too, because another person translated it differently, but i think they sound similar.
<alextee[m]>mehlon: thanks!
<grubles>lfam: same error even with memory balancing disabled. the VM has 8 GB of memory too. hm...
<grubles>i guess i'll try debian 10 instead of fedora 30
<rain>it looks like old parallel port printers need the lp kernel module. should i add it to the default modules or should i just add a note about it in the CUPS section of the docs?
<joshuaBPMan>So I am trying to update guix! This is sooo cool!
<joshuaBPMan>update "sway"* sorry.
<ryanprior>joshuaBPMan: it is cool! Glad you're enjoying :)
<joshuaBPMan>ryanprior: yeah, updating package definitions is a breeze apparently...
<ryanprior>As long as no dependencies have been added it ought to be pretty trivial =D
<joshuaBPMan>ryanprior: No dependencies. I had to update the meson build system.
<joshuaBPMan>and right now meson is complaining that it cannot find openGL ES v2...
<joshuaBPMan>via pkgconfig
<noobly>I have a weird issue in Icecat where it won't display numbers anywhere. I've disabled the LibreJS option but it still persist. Any idea?
<User-59087>installed GuixSD on my librebooted ThinkPad x200 and now I have to enter my disk encryption password two times on every boot. Once before grub and one time when Shepherd boots up. On Parabola I usually do this :
<pkill9>User-59087: this is a known issue i believe
<User-59087>what can I do?
<ryanprior>oops wrong chat
<ryanprior>y'all been knew
<rain>what the heck is up with guix offload test not finding / not being able to access a private key that is very clearly there and very clearly accessible?
<rain>ah, nevermind, i think i misread the error
<rain>now it's a different error
<rain>looks like guix pull will keep trying to offload even with a failed config, instead of just moving on...
<rdtc55>I have the same problem. It's infuriating because my password is way too long... Is there a way to use full-disk encryption on a T400 with libreboot without having to type the passphrase twice?
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<grubles>hmm looks like gcc-mesboot-4.9.4.drv is building using a debian 10 appVM on qubes
<raghavgururajan>Hello Guix!
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<ryanprior>I'm proposing a GUADEC talk about packaging GTK apps in Guix. Does anybody want to co-present with me?
<ryanprior>The deadline to edit my proposal is in two days, so if you're interested then seriously give me a shout.
<raghavgururajan>ryanprior Regarding to help with your packaging, I am almost done with audacious. Once it's done, I can help you with the packaging some dependencies of mkcert.
<ryanprior>Awesome raghavgururajan! I packaged Appstream and protonvpn-cli today. =D
<raghavgururajan>ryanprior That is great. I was planning on packaging protonvpn-cli, glad you beat me to it. :-)
<ryanprior>Shit yeah, fastest gun in the west
<ryanprior>I just have to clean it up for submission :3
<apteryx>has anyone tried booting a degraded RAID with Guix System?
<apteryx>should I expect problems?
<Kimapr>i'm not a RAID expert but you probably should expect problems on any degraded medium with any OS
<Kimapr>and i still have problems with wi-fi (RTL8723BE), even though i installed the driver (rtlwifi-new)
<apteryx>I'll add the degraded option in my GRUB menu until the drive replacement comes. I'll give it a try. If you don't see me around... struggles :-)
<Kimapr>here's my system config (rtlwifi-new package definition included)
<Kimapr>apteryx: i think you better make a backup
<apteryx>yeah, IIUC, the initrd we make would need to support being passed some argument via the kernel command line given via GRUB.
<apteryx>We don't honor anything except --root (the root device to boot from), so I won't have much of a chance there.
<raghavgururajan>What is "-Dc_link_args=-Wl,-rpath=" equivalent in gnu-build-system?
<raghavgururajan>The "-Dc_link_args=-Wl,-rpath=" is used in meson-build-system. I am looking for what it's equivalent in gnu-build-system.
<Gooberpatrol66>How can I get the installed version of a package in guix?
<Gooberpatrol66>nvm, ls /gnu/store | grep <package>
<ryanprior>Gooberpatrol66: or for fancier output, guix package -I <pkg name>
<ryanprior>I'm working on packaging some Meson, and I've got one that can see a library (granite, which I've also packaged) and another that can't see the library during its configure step.
<ryanprior>One thing that's different is that the package that sees it delcares the dependency in its root `` file, while the one that has a problem declares that dependency in its `src/` file.
<ryanprior>Is there a possibility that the root file is getting some kind of dependency path patching while other build files aren't?
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*raghavgururajan is getting screwed by meson
<raghavgururajan>apteryx are you around?
<rekado>the equivalent to "-Dc_link_args=-Wl,-rpath=" is setting the LDFLAGS environment variable to “-Wl,-rpath=”
<rekado>some build systems allow you to pass this as a configure flag
<rekado>see the “hurd” package for example
<rekado>I find themes in Emacs when using Guix very confusing.
<rekado>the choices I have in M-x load-themes change after selecting a theme
<dissoc3>rekado: that doesn't happen for me
<efraim>emacs-vterm is missing a parenthesis it looks like
<rekado>I’m trying to come up with a reproducer
<efraim>hmm, maybe not
<raghavgururajan>rekado Thanks!
<efraim>looks like the guix data service is choking on
<sirmacik>hm, I think that sbcl-slime-swank package which was depreciated in favour of cl-slime-swank needs to be reverted
<sirmacik>sbcl in general doesn't see it installed
<sirmacik>I'll try working with it later
<jas4711>the manual says LVM is missing, but what does that mean? I never bothered to explore LVM usage (which is critical for my deployment of libvirt-based virtual machines) after reading that. Now that I tried 'guix package -i lvm2' and using LVM, it appears to work fine. what am i missing?
<sirmacik>jas4711: docs might be quite dated on that
<jas4711>sirmacik: maybe it refers to being able to specify LVM through config.scm? that is not critical for many uses of LVM though, so the docs is a bit misleading here
<jas4711>here it also says LVM is not implemented
<sirmacik>as I remember lvm2 + luks2 update were brought to repo few months ago so I can mount drive from my old arch installation. Probably there wasn't much work done in favour of configuring it through config file for running guix on it
<sirmacik>oh, grub got luks2 support early this year \o/
<sirmacik>might be a good news for running guix on more secure encryption
<civodul>Hello Guix!
<jas4711>i think LVM support now just works, and the only thing missing is to add a no-op mapped-device-kind and update documentation. i just tried rebooting with LVM, and /dev/mapper contain them as expected. unlike LUKS or RAID, there is no operation needed to make LVM appear
<jas4711>I'll prepare a documentation patch :)
<jas4711>what is missing is maybe having root on LVM, but that's not essential for many LVM uses. the manual could be updated to say that (until someone tests it)
<efraim>17 hours to build llvm-9 on powerpc
<raghavgururajan>What is the "/etc/fstab" equivalent in Guix?
<raghavgururajan>And "/proc/mounts".
<Kimapr[m]>you specify the filesystems directly in system config
<Kimapr[m]>raghavgururajan: ^
<raghavgururajan>Ah! I am looking for hot-pluggable devices. Xfe file-manager mounts/umounts based on entries in those directories.
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<raghavgururajan>I have these code in the source: [1] #define FSTAB_PATH "/etc/fstab" [2] #define MTAB_PATH "/proc/mounts".
<Kimapr[m]>something like this (field in operating-system):
<raghavgururajan>Can I replace these paths to something else, so that xfe's mount/umount operations work in guix?
<Kimapr[m]>i have no idea what xfe is
<raghavgururajan>Kimapr[m] I am aware of the option in system config. Here, I am trying to fix Xfe package.
<Kimapr[m]>what, this is weird
<dutchie>please do not use a channel with hundreds of people in to try out matrix's markdown support
<Kimapr>how do i send messages starting with /?
<Kimapr>i tried to send "/etc/fstab does exist and is generated in system config" but it just doesn't get sent
<dutchie>start with a space will do the trick
<dutchie>some clients will let you do "/ /message"
<civodul>raghavgururajan: /etc/fstab and /proc/mounts are readable and contain valid info
<civodul>what makes you think they're the cause of the Xfe problems you mention?
<raghavgururajan>civodul I see. In Xfe, mount/umount options under 'Tools' menu are always greyed out.
<raghavgururajan>civodul But when mount via udisks separately and come to Xfe, the umount option alone is un-greyed out.
<Kimapr>how to test if a specific linux module is up and running?
<raghavgururajan>Kimapr `lsmod`
<Kimapr>wha- the module for my wifi card is shown in lsmod but neither nmtui nor ifconfig see it
<efraim>raghavgururajan: is there a hardcoded location for mount/umount in XFE?
*efraim needs to type slower
<raghavgururajan>efraim I saw these lines in code: [1] #define FSTAB_PATH "/etc/fstab" [2] #define MTAB_PATH "/proc/mounts".
<efraim>right, i mean does it hardcode /usr/bin/mount or something
<raghavgururajan>efraim Ah no, it uses shell commands
<raghavgururajan> [1] #define DEFAULT_MOUNTCMD "mount" [2] #define DEFAULT_UMOUNTCMD "umount".
<raghavgururajan>efraim ^
<efraim>I always feel like it's 'acceptable' to assume Guix System for GUI applications, the alternative almost seems to be searching through $PATH for a mount command that is setuid
<efraim>if it's not expensive to compile try substituting /run/setuid-programs/mount for mount and see if that changes the behavior
<raghavgururajan>Cool! I can try that.
<raghavgururajan>But I doubt it, as the command `mount` will be the path of `which mount` of the shell.
<raghavgururajan>efraim Did not work. :/
<raghavgururajan>Thanks for suggesting though.
<jvshahid`>I followed the instructions in section 'Contributing/The Perfect Setup', but when I execute `guix-devel-use-module' (or C-c . u), my CPU fans start spinning for a few minutes. I usually wait like 5 minutes and then kill the process. Is this expected behavior? Am I missing optimization flags?
<Kimapr>the driver (wifi-card) seems to be working but it isn't used by anything :(
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<raghavgururajan>efraim I fixed some other issues in Xfe. (#40980). Would you be able to push it? Thanks!
<Kimapr>kimapr@DComp ~$ rfkill list
<Kimapr>0: hci0: Bluetooth
<Kimapr> Soft blocked: yes
<Kimapr> Hard blocked: no
<Kimapr>1: phy0: Wireless LAN
<Kimapr> Soft blocked: yes
<Kimapr> Hard blocked: no
<Kimapr>^ this looks weird, how do i unblock Wireless LAN?
<raghavgururajan>Kiampr Are you experiencing during usb boot of Guix?
<raghavgururajan>*experiencing this
<raghavgururajan>Kimapr ^
<Kimapr>i installed it on a hdd
<Kimapr>> here's my system config (rtlwifi-new package definition included)
<raghavgururajan>Okay. Try `rfkill ublock all` and reconnect to wifi.
<Kimapr>already did this
<Kimapr>still doesn't work
<raghavgururajan>Kimapr Config looks good to me. You do not have any Desktop Environment installed. How are you connecting to WiFi?
<Kimapr>i'm not connecting to wifi, i want to run a wifi access point or something like that, i'm already connected through ethernet
<raghavgururajan>I see. Is nmtui an application of some sort? `guix search nmtui` gives me nothing.
<raghavgururajan>Kimapr I would suggest you temporarily install XFCE and try the network-manager applet. Just to check if nm is working correctly.
<Kimapr>nmtui is part of network-manager package (or at least it seems to)
<Kimapr>nmtui is a TUI interface to nm
<raghavgururajan>Kimapr Ah, I have not used it. So not sure.
<raghavgururajan>You could also try `ifconfig wlp2s0 up`.
<Kimapr>"No such device"
<raghavgururajan>you could get correct name from `ifconfig`
<Kimapr>it doesn't list it
<kraai>Hi. I'm trying to package GHC 8.8.3, which can build with GHC 8.4 or later. Is it better to build it with 8.4 or 8.6?
<raghavgururajan>Kimapr Okay, that explains. Your WiFi card is not supported by libre-driver in linux-libre kernel.
<Kimapr>doesn't look like that
<Kimapr>> 0a:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
<lprndn>hello guix
<Kimapr>lspci found it ^
<Kimapr>and RTL8723BE is listed in h-node
<Kimapr>i made a package definition for driver found from there (based on another driver's definition) and installed it as linux-module
<janneke>raghavgururajan: about the sudo-removal patch for ktsuss: the "sudo" version (current master) seems to for me, look:
<janneke>$(./pre-inst-env guix build ktsuss)/bin/ktsuss /run/current-system/profile/bin/id => [popup]
<janneke>uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
<raghavgururajan>janneke Hmm. Does authentication works after popup?
<raghavgururajan>Oh wait
<raghavgururajan>You got the output.
<raghavgururajan>janneke Could you try running non-setuid programs? Like nano?
<Jonsger-phone>Is there a way to get a console in gdm without function keys?
<janneke>raghavgururajan: i tried emacs, works too :-)
<raghavgururajan>janneke Hmm. Even I tried and it works inside env.Not sure why it doesn't works with spacefm.
<raghavgururajan>Let me check somethings and get back to you.
<bdax>hello, I have a laptop with integrated intel graphics, and I'm wondering if it's compatible with linux-libre. It's specs are:
<bdax>Graphics: Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 520 driver: i915 v: kernel
<bdax> Display: tty server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: i915 resolution: 1920x1080~6
<bdax> OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 520 (Skylake GT2) v: 4.5
<bdax>I saw i915 is mentioned by but not sure if it's right
<NieDzejkob>h-node also says that it should work:
<bdax>ah brilliant, thank you
<raghavgururajan>janneke Nah, it is not working with spacefm. I tried again with `./pre-inst-env guix environment --ad-hoc spacefm`, in current master.
<raghavgururajan>janneke May regardless of spacefm, shall we use su instead of sudo? It was suppose to be gui of su anyway. ;-)
<raghavgururajan>*may be
<chrislck>anyone getting errors on "guix pull"?
<rekado>rust 1.19 fails to build on i686-linux (while trying to build icedove)
<rekado>chrislck: like what?
<raghavgururajan>rekado Woah! we have icedove O.o?
<janneke>raghavgururajan: i have no strong opiniouns on that...however i /think/ that Guix tends to like SUDO more than SU (see documentaiton)
<arpunk>chrislck: Yes
<rekado>raghavgururajan: not yet
<rekado>chrislck: let me check
<janneke>raghavgururajan: ...and i am not too happy with a commit that says "ktsuss's sudo is broken", when it actually works...
<janneke>...and it could still be that spacefm is broken?
<efraim>IIRC we're ignoring the rust i686 build errors and hoping they go away when we move to bootstrapping with 1.29
<arpunk>chrislck: That same error, yes
<rekado>maybe the last commit broke things 61fc72d3ac949d0c65690ee25bb1daf01f39bb42
<raghavgururajan>janneke Hmm. So what do we do now? Are patches for spacefm, udevil and ktsuss good to be pushed?
<raghavgururajan>janneke Ah!
<raghavgururajan>rekado I see.
<rekado>just a moment
<janneke>i haven't looked at udevil
<raghavgururajan>I see.
<janneke>and i'm a bit hesitant...many commits need fixups later; so
<rekado>chrislck: should be fine now
<rekado>thanks for the report!
<janneke>now i get a commit that says ktsuss' sudo is broken, i test it, it works...
<roelj>Anyone getting “ice-9/eval.scm:293:34: no binding `zip' to hide in module (gnu packages compression)” when compiling the current master branch?
<rekado>roelj: what commit are you on?
<roelj>rekado: 61fc72d3ac
<rekado>there was a problem with the commit before 4ac3996036
<janneke>maybe tomorrow you have spacefm fixed, and want ktsuss' sudo back (because it saves typing passwords all the time)
<rekado>there’s still a problem with gnu/packages/backup.scm, though
<rekado>more wrong with commit 61fc72d3ac :-/
<NieDzejkob>I'll push a fix for /backup.scm
<raghavgururajan>janneke I tried and fixed things for spacefm. I did my best.
<janneke>raghavgururajan: i very much appreciate all your efforts, but i think you may need to slow down a bit
<raghavgururajan>I understand :-)
<janneke>raghavgururajan: sure, you did very well!
<janneke>but possibly a bit too hastily (maby it's just bad luck, we all make mistakes!)
<roelj>rekado: The preceding line to my error is “error: failed to load 'guix/scripts/pack.scm':”. Should I attempt to dig deeper and send a patch? Or are you already on it? :)
<rekado>is this a clean checkout?
*rekado pushed another fix for commit 61fc72d3ac
<rekado>(this would have been avoided with a test build. Looks like an incomplete copy paste job.)
<NieDzejkob><NieDzejkob> I'll push a fix for /backup.scm </NieDzejkob> nevermind
<chrislck>test test test
<chrislck>no test, no commit :)
<roelj>rekado: Is “#:hide (zip)” in guix/scripts/pack.scm correct?
<rekado>roelj: I can’t reproduce this.
<janneke>raghavgururajan: and maybe you think of a fix tomorrow for spacefm->ktsudo->sudo? :-)
<rekado>roelj: usually this kind of error has terribly misleading error messages
<rekado>there’s nothing wrong with hiding zip
<raghavgururajan>janneke Just a sec. I am pretty sure I had error using sudo in ktsuss. I even discussed it here with reepca.
<raghavgururajan>Let me try something.
<roelj>rekado: Okay. Then I know the problem must be somewhere with me. :)
<roelj>rekado: Thanks
<raghavgururajan>janneke I installed ktsuss in my profile and did `ktsuss xfe` in terminal. After authentication, the application opens but not with superuser mode.
<raghavgururajan>Could you try installing ktsuss and open an application? Like `ktsuss foo`?
<janneke>raghavgururajan: and that's the newer version, that uses /run/setuid-programs/sudo, right?
<raghavgururajan>yes, current master
<janneke>like i said, works for me: ktsuss emacs
<raghavgururajan>hmm. Not sure why it is not working on my end.
<raghavgururajan>Guix system or foriegn distro?
<janneke>that's on guix system
<raghavgururajan>me to. I am confused.
<raghavgururajan>janneke Okay, I'll dig into this later. Since spacefm is the only application that uses ktsuss right now, shall we proceed with current patches? wdyt?
<raghavgururajan>May be we can change "in guix system" to "in spacefm" in commit-message of ktsuss?
<raghavgururajan>I hope #40753 #40922 #40901 fixes spacefm, once in for all. :-)
<efraim>TIL Debian skips running the test suite on mesa
<raghavgururajan>janneke Please ignore #40753 and #40901 for now. #40922 is good for sure.
<apteryx>civodul: heya!
*janneke goes afk for a bit
<apteryx>I think I may have found a good reason to let users pass root options at the CLI (GRUB -> Linux kernel cmdline -> picked up by our initrd): degraded arrays. I have a degraded array and I'm afraid to reboot because I'm sure I'll get stuck with no way to pass the "degraded" option in GRUB. I have the luxury that my system is still running, so I can reconfigure with that option in my operating system
<apteryx>configuration, but it could have been otherwise.
<apteryx>perhaps a good time to revisit those root file system on a Btrfs submodule patches (some older version of those patches even had that feature :-)
<raghavgururajan>And since #40753 is already closed, I have sent revised patch as #40982.
<civodul>hey apteryx!
<civodul>oh yes, those patches
*civodul is drowning in pending patches :-/
<civodul>sorry for the delay!
<NieDzejkob>alextee[m]: I don't know if you've noticed, but zrythm failed on CI, even though it worked locally for me. Could you investigate?
<NieDzejkob>(if you can reproduce this, but perhaps not consistently, maybe you need to disable #:parallel-tests?)
<alextee[m]>NieDzejkob: do you have a link to the CI log?
<NieDzejkob>alextee[m]: ah, sorry, should've linked it. Here's the x86_64 one, for example:
<apteryx>civodul: don't be sorry :-) but with retrospect and with my current RAID failure, I think it'd bring nice value that hour initrd honor 'rootflags'
<NieDzejkob>interestingly, i686 and armhf also failed, while aarch64 worked
<alextee[m]>NieDzejkob: heh, i dont think my code is expecting more than 16 threads :-) probably array overflow
<alextee[m]>let me check
<NieDzejkob>the failures look like you should try ASAN and/or valgrind :P
<NieDzejkob>Oh! That would explain it *perfectly*
<alextee[m]>i do have a flag to limit that, i should probably add it to the tests, but i will fix the array lengths too now
<alextee[m]>yep: GraphThread threads[16];
<alextee[m]>NieDzejkob: out of curiosity, how many CPUs does the CI server have?
<alextee[m]>or how many cores* probably
<NieDzejkob>no idea :/
<NieDzejkob>** Message: 09:55:46.550: Number of CPU cores found: 64
<alextee[m]>oh cool
<jonsger_>its different. The new ones are all AMD Epycs. I think some of them are only 2x 8cores
<bdax>I know it's not ideal, but is it possible to install non-free firmware (iwlwifi) on a guix system, until I eventually get a decent wifi card
<grubles>ok i made some progress getting guix working in a qubes appvm
<grubles>running in a debian 10 appvm seems to resolve whatever issue i was having running in a fedora 30 vm. but now i'm getting a hash mismatch for icu4c-64_2-src.tgz.
<bavier>hai Guix!
*ecbrown experiments with zfs send /gnu | ssh zfs receive
*ecbrown concludes that it looks like sending a lot of data over ssh
<bandali>hi bavier
<bavier>bandali: o/
<pkill9>what does this `guix copy --from=... /gnu/store/...` error mean?: guix copy: error: implementation cannot deal with > 32-bit integers
<NieDzejkob>pkill9: hmm, a backtrace could be useful...
<pkill9>how do i get a backtrace?
<NieDzejkob>I think you should be able to get a backtrace with guix repl -> ,use(guix scripts copy) -> (guix-copy "--from=..." "/gnu/store/...")
<efraim>ecbrown: is that using zfs from guix?
<ryanprior>grubles: cool, are you working on a GuixSD TemplateVM or installing Qubes in a Debian AppVM?
<ryanprior>ecbrown: would it help to `guix pack` instead of relying on `zfs send`? (I'm not familiar with the latter.)
<NieDzejkob>(consider guix copy too)
<grubles>ryanprior: installing guix in a debian appvm
<zimoun>Does it exist a function to expand '~' in Guile? Because the long options fail. For example, "guix pull --channels=~/path/to/file.scm"
<ryanprior>zimoun: ~ I think the shell has to handle tilde expansion. Would it work for you to do `--channels=$HOME/path/to/file.scm`?
<zimoun>ryanprior: yes it works. But '~' and '~username' should be expanded. I mean, it is what I expect. :-) Emacs provides "expand-file-name", does Guile have similar?
<bavier>I think there are some shadow utilities that will do that
<bavier>bash, at least, will not expand ~ if it's not preceded by whitespace, it seems
<jvshahid>Asking the same question I asked earlier. I followed the instructions in section 'Contributing/The Perfect Setup', but when I execute `guix-devel-use-module' (or C-c . u), my CPU fans start spinning for a few minutes. I usually wait like 5 minutes and then kill the process. Is this expected behavior? Am I missing optimization flags?
<NieDzejkob>jvshahid: I'd guess that you have to run `make' in your checkout
<NieDzejkob>(this is because loading all the code in the project from source takes a while)
<jvshahid>NieDzejkob: Cool. I will try that.
<ecbrown>efraim: no, ubuntu 20.04 lts with zfs on root
<ecbrown>i see there is a zfs package: might check it out
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<pkill9>where is discussion on paramterized packages?
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<bavier>pkill9: some discussion has been happening on the mailing lists
<rawmat>hello, i'm new and i installed guix on vmware
<rawmat>i've problem setting the console resolution
<rawmat>cannot modify /etc/config.scm to set the resolution
<bavier>rawmat: you can set the grub gfxmode parameter, is that what you need?
<PotentialUser-43>test message
<rawmat>i see in the manual speaking about grub-theme
<bavier>rawmat: see the example there for overriding the default resolution
<rawmat>and trying to set 1920X1080 like the example in the manual
<rawmat>when i try guix system reconfigure it gives invalid field
<mbakke>janneke: commit 541122957c68a15f8657775e62448b1cfafd7cb8 forgot to mention the new native-inputs, which confused me quite a bit when resolving a merge conflict
<mbakke>also it would be much better if it had gone through master
<bavier>rawmat: oh, I see, that section has not seen much love; it doesn't seem to have been updated since the bootloader-configuration changes
<rawmat>sorry im also new to IRC
<rawmat>i inspected the grub generated file and it's set to gfxmode auto
<bavier>rawmat: ignore the "grub-configuration" bit in the example; the "theme" field and everything under it should work though
<bavier>i.e. 'grub-configuration' should be 'bootloader-configuration', and the indentation fixed
<rawmat>i try this
*bavier on puny netbook right now, otherwise could test faster
<rawmat>i tried, but it still gives "invalied field specifier"
<bavier>rawmat: would you mind pasting your config.scm somewhere?
<rawmat>yes i try
<lfam>bavier: Any change that manual section has been updated in the "devel" (master branch) version of the manual? <>
<bavier>lfam: maybe, didn't check. I think I'm looking at the 1.1.0 manual
<bavier>and those bootloader changes were far before that
<lfam>Can you say which section it is? I can take a look now
<bavier>Last few paragraphs of "Bootloader Configuration"
<bavier>under 'grub-theme', "For example, to override..."
<lfam>I'll fix it now
<bavier>lfam: thanks!
<rawmat>the pastebin give error
<bdju>try using
<bavier>rawmat: "theme" is a field of bootloader-configuration, so should be moved in one level of parens
<rawmat>i try
<rawmat>YES, it works like you said.
<rawmat>thank you very much
<lfam>I'm testing the correction for the manual now. Sorry about the confusion rawmat...
<rawmat>no problem
<rawmat>im new to guix and what i see for now seems very good
<nojr>Where can I find more information on node-build-system, I could find a few paragraphs in the guix manual
<nojr>This variable is exported by ‘(guix build-system node)’.
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<lfam>nojr: Besides the manual, the code will have to serve as documentation, unless there is a blog post or presentation online
<nojr>cool! learning time 8)
<nojr>lfam: thanks
<ruffni>is openlibm the math.h library in guix?
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<NieDzejkob>ruffni: math.h should be shipped by glibc, and therefore available after installing gcc-toolchain
<ruffni>i'm trying to write a package definition (with scons-build-system). so the package needs gcc-toolchain as an input?
<ruffni>or is it already part of the scons-build-system?
<NieDzejkob>it should be provided by the build system, yeah
<NieDzejkob>(I usually run the build without any inputs and then watch it fail :P)
<lfam>That's the packaging canonical workflow :)
<lfam>Or, the canonical packaging workflow
<lfam>I think that Scons is a bit obscure, so there may be some issue with how the package in question is using it
<ruffni>so the SConstruct file searches for the libraries and tells me library "m" (math.h) is not....
<lfam>You might take a look and see where it is searching
<ruffni>it does a conf.CheckLibWithHeader(). conf = Configure(env)
<ruffni>so i might just give it the path with a prefixed var?
<lfam>ruffni: I would look at other packages using scons to see if they have to do something similar
<ruffni>there's no 'ack' in guix? how do i find packages built with the scons-build-system?
<ryanprior>In a Guix package definition what do you do if the program wants there to be a "cc" executable?
*civodul finds it amazing just how much activity there is in this repo
<civodul>ryanprior: you tell it to use "gcc" instead, for example by setting CC=gcc (environment variable)
<reepca>raghavgururajan: I believe the relevant log is here, if you're having difficulty finding it:
<ryanprior>That works for some things, where it respects the environment. But in this case there's literally parts of the build process that just call "cc" cold
<ryanprior>I patched a few instances of that but that got me to wondering "maybe there's a pattern for this?"
<ryanprior>Also the patching seems fragile
<bavier>ryanprior: I think there was one package where I created a 'cc' link in a temporary directory and added that to PATH
<bavier>as long as the package doesn't try to call '/usr/local/bin/cc' or something like that...
<ryanprior>That sounds slightly janky but not jankier than doing a bunch of substitute " cc " " gcc "
<lfam>The jankiness is proportional the janky problem it aims to solve ;)
*lfam builds news VLC
<ryanprior>civodul: the activity is because Guix is solving real problems and helping people :3
<mbakke>janneke: I merged commit ce0f1b1eefbb6d7d6339c0919cc051f9f5cf9b8d to core-updates which undid your a7dbb95ca5189382e3bea9de5c97b929da79fc32, so you may need to do a new update
*mbakke fades back into obscurity
<reepca>raghavgururajan: also, I've now reported the ktsuss bug: