<sneek>mbakke, raghavgururajan says: How are things with core-updates-->master merging for gnome 3.30. Just following up as it has been a while. :-)
<nckx>Hm. I blindly assumed that said channel only contains free software because it's rekado's, but I didn't check. If you see any non-free software in there please shut down your computer and accept my apologies.
<nckx>No, true, still better than a modern 802.1x portal 🙂
<tune>I have never configured elogind. can this be done in my config.scm?
<vagrantc>yeah, it depends on if you want the default behavior to not suspend on lid close or just a one-off
<nckx>tune: Yes. vagrantc's trick is a hammer but a very good one.
<nckx>I've used it before, with something like ‘-- cat’ as the eternal guard.
<tune>killing xwayland fixed the mouse issue but also made all my windows disappear
<tune>I don't know what I'm doing with the service thing but I guess I'll look that up
<Blukunfando>Isn’t the whole point of IceCat to grab the mouse and leisurely kill it, revelling in its agony?
<tune>I see there is a handle-lid-switch-docked, but its default is already "ignore" and it clearly didn't help. what a horrible world we live in
<Guest96752>I am having issue on making a package installed by guix discoverable. Im am trying to use tuxboot to make a live clonezila system but it is complaining about libpng12. I already had installed it with guix, does someone knows what could be wrong? I am using guix manager on top of a gentoo system
<tune>does this look good? (elogind-service (handle-lid-switch "ignore"))
<nckx>It does, but it also still uses the procedure syntax (instead of -service-type) so it might just predate the current conventions. I use only the vanilla (elogind-service) so my system.scm is of no help.
<tune>something like this then? (elogind-service #:config (elogind-configuration (handle-lid-switch "ignore")))
<nckx>Heh. Yeah. So my problems are 1) I don't use any of this remove stuff to begin with, I just write my (services) from scratch and 2) I don't know off the top of my head whether the old-style (elogind-service) sets the expected ‘service-type’ field. So I'm the worst person to help you with this.
<nckx>That said, you can *try* replacing (eq? …) with (or (eq? (service-kind service) gdm-service-type) (eq? (service-kind service) elogind-service-type))
<tune>so it's now actually updating, then I'll see what I end up with
<nckx>(Aside, re: <gonna leave the last ) on its own line even if it's less pretty>. One of the reasons that lispers [can afford to] write this way is because they *never* format their code by hand, so they read code by indentation, not by counting brackets. When you pasted your incorrect snippet, the first thing I did was paste it into emacs and auto-indented the whole thing. It made the error obvious. So write whatever you feel comfortable with, but consider
<nckx>configuring your editor to help you with the boring stuff. *Everyone* else does.)
<tune>so wl-clipboard 1.0 is broken on the current sway version. there's a 2.0.0_beta2 release now. how easily can the guix package be updated to this version?
<tune>nckx: I've got a semi-configured emacs and neovim but I don't totally get how my indentation works in either. I was editing in neovim earlier, but maybe I'll try to use emacs for my config.scm more
<tune>for now I've done C-x h TAB to change the indentation, but it's not immediately obvious to me what changed
<tune>at least emacs seems to do a better job of it automatically
<sherab>here's the output from the command line qemu-system-x86_64 -m 1024 -smp 1 \ -net user -net nic,model=virtio -boot menu=on \ -drive file=guix-system-install-1.0.1.x86_64-linux.iso \ -drive file=guixsd.img
<sherab>qemu-system-x86_64: -smp 1: Could not open ' -net': No such file or directory
<nckx>quiliro: Here's what I used to get ‘eo’ to work (which isn't part of the *completely* arbitrary %default-locale-definitions in (gnu system locale)). However, es_ES is already in that list, so I don't know why it still fails for you. I have no ‘*locale*’ packages installed anywhere, user nor system profile.
<nckx>quiliro: 1a) almost never, I do run X you know 1b) with fbida 2a) I don't really 2b) with LANG=foo or LC_ALL=foo <command> 3) no 4) It's just eo, it doesn't have a country code by design (it used to be ‘eo_EO’ but that has been deprecated in favour of just ‘eo’).
<nckx>quiliro: 1c) The ‘fbida’ provides the ‘fbi’ command, so that can be confusing 2c) I only use zh_CN daily but tried eo for a week for fun.
<nckx>It's not actually great in real life 🙂 Being a wealthy EU member means we can afford to be without an acting government for a ridiculously long time without people setting fire to things or the US coming to Help, but it does affect things badly in the long run.
<quiliro>nckx: any suggestions? where to find students, what the curricula would be, methology, etc
<nckx>emacsomancer: Er, wow. That's gorier than expected. Not really a foreign Guix user/fan so can't help you much I'm afraid. Which command(-equivalent) would that be? ‘guix pull’? Does running it from the command line produce the same error?
<emacsomancer>nckx: that's the update command. guix pull is fine. I'll try it from the command line.
<nckx>emacsomancer: But updating what? You're not trying to ‘guix package -i guix’ or ‘guix package -u guix’, I hope? Because that is a big no-no.
<quiliro>emacsomancer: does 'guix upgrade' on eshell or shell work?
<nckx>quiliro: Not really. My own personal teaching style is a bit more theoretical/let's-understand-what-Scheme-is than is probably ideal at such events, so I tend to prefer tutoring more experienced users (just new to Scheme/Guix) one-on-one.
<quiliro>nckx: but command line is easy....that is just the beggining....the hard part is guix....
<quiliro>maybe i write that because i do not know how yet!
<emacsomancer>I tend to do `M-x guix-pull`, `M-x guix-installed-user-packages` and then `^` to mark packages needing updating; or `guix-all-packages` to get a list of packages if i want to install something new
*nckx .oO Is ‘Cuirass’ just a punny pun on ‘CI’ and ‘Guix’? Or am I missing something obvious?
<zacts>I notice that `guix weather libreoffice` fails too
<c0c0>i'm trying to install guix. i booted from the installation usb stick, the grub menu with "GNU Guix installation..." shows up, and in the next step, i see some output such as "setting up setuid programs in '/run/setuid-programs'...". after that screen i arrive at a blank screen that stays forever. not sure what the problem is. before the blank screen, i see two errors, one of which is "Driver 'pcspkr'
<c0c0>is already registered, aborting...". i don't know what that means. any hints?
<zacts>I had an issue with the installer as well. You might want to try manually installing.
<quiliro>c0c0: a machine which has different hardware, and a machine that has less dirt on the usb ports and a better state of hard disk and mainboard (hardware state and driver problems often cause problems booting)
<sherab>almost 3 hours of downloading and building is that normal??
<c0c0>quiliro: thanks for your hints. i tried a different usb stick, getting a blank screen again. tried on a different machine, and it works there
<c0c0>don't know if there's anything i can do to install it on that machine where i get a blank screen?
<vagrantc>so, i made some adjustments to the native-inputs of diffoscope that had some conditionally based on architecture ... but looking at: https://ci.guix.gnu.org/eval/7519 it didn't even attempt to build on aarch64 or armhf
<civodul>vagrantc: "guix show diffoscope" now says it's only supported on x86