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<sebboh>From ambrevar's dotfiles?
<sebboh>dang, I'm new to rust and I'm having minor problems and I don't know if they are rust, or guix system. So, I did `guix install rust rust:cargo` and then I was able to do `cargo new hello-rust` no problem.
<sebboh>but `cargo install rustfmt-nightly` fails with a TLS error (probably I don't have the right ca certificates in place). Meanwhile if I invoke curl from the command line with debug on, I see this line in the output: "* found 154 certificates in /home/sebboh/.guix-profile/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt" and I don't get errors.
*jonsger misses `guix environment` so much on his power machine :(
<sebboh>"The purpose of ‘guix environment’ is to assist hackers in creating reproducible development environments without polluting their package profile." Nice, thanks jonsger!
<mbakke>jonsger: what's the scoop on cross-compiling the bootstrap tarballs for ppc?
<jonsger>mbakke: ppc32 is easy (efraim did this before), ppc64le needs gcc6.2 or greater
<mbakke>jonsger: have you tried it on 'core-updates'?
<mbakke>what is the target triplet?
<jonsger>and I don't have a fast x86 machine anymore, only a 2c/4t laptop :(
<jonsger>dftxbs3e: tried it recently I think
<sebboh>can I list all the packages provided by a certain .scm file? Wait probably with grep XD
<dftxbs3e>I have a powerful x86 machine
<dftxbs3e>mbakke, I made a container image with the progress of porting
<sebboh>Sorry for the "attention deficit disorder" I am putting on display here but.. `find /gnu/ -iname certs.scm|wc -l` returns 22. How may I know which certs.scm my current guix profile is going to use? (is 'current profile' the right phrase?)
<dftxbs3e>compiled at
<dftxbs3e>built * rather
<dftxbs3e>mbakke, currently it's stuck on a header issue on gcc-boot0
<dftxbs3e>just run `guix build hello` within that container to debug
<dftxbs3e>(it works on ppc64le, not x86)
<mbakke>sebboh: I think installing 'openssl' into your profile will set up the required environment variables
<sebboh>I will try that but there is something missing here. (curl from guix already works. It is installed in the same profile that rust:cargo is. Cargo uses curl under the hood.)
<dftxbs3e>mbakke, target triplet is powerpc64le-linux-gnu
<dftxbs3e>the branch I linked is patched with using gcc-7 everywhere needed in the bootstrap path
<pkill9>sebboh: you can get the list of installed packages with `guix package -I | awk '{print $1}'`, then if you put the output of that in a file you could do on the second machine `guix package -i $(cat package-list.txt | xargs)`
<mbakke>dftxbs3e: can you try the current 'core-updates' branch?
<mbakke>sebboh: I see. There is a long-standing problem with libcurl in that it cannot locate TLS certificates from the environment.
<dftxbs3e>mbakke, how current? This is like not even a week old
<mbakke>sebboh: Perhaps Cargo can locate certificates from the environment?
<mbakke>sebboh: you should try asking on help-guix@, I'm sure someone has figured out a way to use TLS with Cargo
<mbakke>dftxbs3e: oh right, I thought it was based on 'master'
<mbakke>dftxbs3e: do you have the build log available somewhere?
*mbakke runs `./pre-inst-env guix build --keep-going --target=powerpc64le-linux-gnu bootstrap-tarballs`
<dftxbs3e>mbakke, I already ran that command
<dftxbs3e>it worked
<dftxbs3e>problem now is commencement.scm
<dftxbs3e>It worked after few modifications
<dftxbs3e>mbakke, I needed this patch on top of core-updates:
<dftxbs3e>for ./pre-inst-env guix build --keep-going --target=powerpc64le-linux-gnu bootstrap-tarballs to succeed
<mbakke>looks good
<dftxbs3e>but unfortunately that's not it, there's some bits that still compile with gcc-4 in commencement.scm so I started figuring it out but stuck on a gcc compilation issue
<dftxbs3e>I will set up ppc64le CI and show you logs
<dftxbs3e>it's an error about brk, strstr, etc being redefined
<dftxbs3e>conflicting prototypes
<sebboh>pkill9: got it, thanks
<mbakke>dftxbs3e: right, so 'gcc-for-libstdc++' fails?
<mbakke>or things using that?
<sebboh>mbakke: nope, installing openssl didn't do the trick. yeah I'll check the guix-help list, thank you
<mbakke>dftxbs3e: I think you'll have to create a new libstdc++-boot0 variant that does not use GCC 4
<dftxbs3e>mbakke, it's done already, now it's gcc-boot0 I think
<mbakke>gcc-boot0 is not using GCC 4 apart from the libstdc++ input
<dftxbs3e>it's failing
<mbakke>dftxbs3e: it's probably failing because the C++ library it uses comes from GCC 4
<dftxbs3e>mbakke, libstdc++v3?
<mbakke>that one, yes
<mbakke>dftxbs3e: try to make 'libstdc++-boot0' inherit from 'gcc' instead of 'gcc-for-libstdc++'
<dftxbs3e>mbakke, let me see
<dftxbs3e>I'm getting my environment back up
<dftxbs3e>mbakke, okay so sorry, what's buggy is: "../../gcc-7.4.0/gcc/../include/libiberty.h:112:14: error: ambiguating new declaration of 'char* basename(const char*)'
<dftxbs3e> extern char *basename (const char *) ATTRIBUTE_RETURNS_NONNULL ATTRIBUTE_NONNULL(1);
<dftxbs3e>in gcc-cross-boot0
<mbakke>I tried to use gcc-7 instead of gcc-4.9 for libstdc++-boot0, and it fails with a similarly confusing error
<mbakke>dftxbs3e: I would start by trying to update the bootstrap libstdc++ somehow
<mbakke>perhaps you can use the one from the bootstrap compiler ?
<dftxbs3e>mbakke, where is that?
<leungbk>Is there an easy way of disabling all autoloads for a Guix-installed Emacs?
<sneek>Welcome back leungbk, you have 1 message.
<sneek>leungbk, efraim says: I'm not sure about making sure packages only appear in cargo-inputs or cargo-dev-inputs, but the package definition only needs to happen once
<mbakke>dftxbs3e: did you update gnu/packages/bootstrap.scm with the cross-compiled ppc64le bootstrap-tarballs?
<dftxbs3e>mbakke, yes, please see:
<mbakke>dftxbs3e: nvm, I just checked the branch :)
<mbakke>dftxbs3e: try this patch:
<dftxbs3e>mbakke, waiting for compile..
<dftxbs3e>mbakke, same error
<mbakke>dftxbs3e: derp, I patched the wrong GCC...
<dftxbs3e>mbakke, it now failed on a configure step saying it can't figure out sizeof(long long)
<mbakke>dftxbs3e: does the bootstrap compiler have ?
<dftxbs3e>I'm re-running with --keep-failed to investigate..
<dftxbs3e>mbakke, bootstrap compiler is static linked AFAIK
<mbakke>derp, of course
<dftxbs3e>mbakke, have a look at the bootstrap-tarballs here:
<dftxbs3e>ah no it's not static
<dftxbs3e>hmm it is
<dftxbs3e>either way the archive doesnt have
<dftxbs3e>neither any .so
<dftxbs3e>so I'm guessing it's static
<dftxbs3e>it has .o and .a though but that's for linking afterwards
<mbakke>dftxbs3e: to build libstdc++ for later versions of GCC, I think you need to do a full GCC build before descending into libstdc++-v3
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<dftxbs3e>mbakke, the only way I can use gcc-4 on POWER is by compiling full gcc with glibc 2.24
<mbakke>dftxbs3e: in that case this should be a nicer workaround :)
<dftxbs3e>mbakke, full path to glibc 2.29 is: gcc-4 + glibc 2.24 => gcc-7 + glibc 2.24 => gcc-7 + glibc 2.<latest>
<mbakke>dftxbs3e: I hope building a newer libstdc++ will remove the need for that chain :/
<dftxbs3e>mbakke, I think libstdc++v3 should work, shouldnt it?
<mbakke>dftxbs3e: I suppose... I guess there's nothing really ppc64le specific in later versions.
***runejuhl1 is now known as runejuhl
<jollyjester>hello, i am trying to get GDM to stop running at startup and also to get it removed, it runs fine but doesn't do anything other than display some things then reconfigure the bootloader, it doesn't rebuild packages or anything so i'm skeptical that it actually works since GDM still starts at startup, here's my config
<jollyjester>this stuff doesn't even have a place in the manual, there's absolutely no documentation on how to remove and disable GDM
<iv-so>hi, guys! how can I use gcc 9 (or any other specific version) to build the package?
<jollyjester>well this chat is dead
<u0_a134>I wan't copy my machine guix to other machine
<u0_a134>Is this okay?
<u0_a134>tar cf gnu.tar /gnu
<u0_a134>tar cf guix.tar /var/guix
<jollyjester>u0_a134: yo
<jollyjester>u0_a134: do you use gdm?
<jollyjester>hello, i am trying to get GDM to stop running at startup and also to get it removed, it runs fine but doesn't do anything other than display some things then reconfigure the bootloader, it doesn't rebuild packages or anything so i'm skeptical that it actually works since GDM still starts at startup, here's my config
<iyzsong>jollyjester: You need replace [line 45] (service %desktop-service) with (service (remove .... %desktop-service)) (from line 7)
<iyzsong>also you may want add another xorg-service like 'slim-service-type'..
<jollyjester>well i don't want to use any other display manager i just want to startx manually, you see
<jollyjester>also i can't find ANY documentation for this, would you give me a link so i can examine further?
<iyzsong>okay, but guix doesn't have an out-of-box working 'startx' currently. i remember there are some hacking mentioned in the mailing list about how to do it..
<u0_a134>I I don't use DM
<u0_a134>I always install xorg on my alpine and then install guix. There are too many installer bugs in guixsd. I don't want to use it for the time being.
<u0_a134>then startx is working.
<jollyjester>i wonder
<jollyjester>wouldn't it be something if i installed gentoo
<jollyjester>but installed packages using guix
<jollyjester>anyways, please give me some advice on how i can replace gdm with another lightweight display manager
<jollyjester>just not lightdm or any heavy one, the most minimal one you can get
<jollyjester>i'll go grab some stuff, be back in 20 minutes
<u0_a134>you can use slim?
<jollyjester>i guess?
<jollyjester>just go to the 0bin link i sent, edit it accordingly and send it back
<jollyjester>make sure to delete GDM and disable it and replace it with slim
<jollyjester>ok back
<jollyjester>any progress? u0_a134
<reepca>sneek: later tell jollyjester: here's how you'd replace GDM with slim:
<sneek>Will do.
<quiliro>i cannot understand what he says is the name othe software... alink, slink, ....
<reepca>quiliro: 8sync
<reepca>as in 'guix package -i guile-8sync'
<jollyjester>ok, well i really don't know how to fix this, i'm trying to get slim working instead of gdm but i have no idea what i'm doing
<sneek>Welcome back jollyjester, you have 1 message.
<sneek>jollyjester, reepca says: here's how you'd replace GDM with slim:
<jollyjester>reepca: will look into it
<jollyjester>ok reepca that fixed it, i have no idea how but ok
<reepca>jollyjester: the gist of it is that, first, REMOVE is not destructive. It returns a new list that is "like the old one, but without the elements that match the predicate"
<reepca>so your use of it up there didn't affect %desktop-services at all
<jollyjester>also do you know how i can start services at startup?
<jollyjester>does it even have services ootb or do i need to make them myself?
<jollyjester>and where can i learn to do that
<reepca>but, if we bind the result to a variable and use that instead of %desktop-services for the SERVICES field of the operating-system declaration, then it'll pick it up
<reepca>and CONS returns a new list consisting of the first argument followed by the elements of the list that is its second argument
<reepca>first thing to note: there are two general classes of "services": guix services and shepherd services. The ones you directly specify in your config.scm are guix services, but when the operating-system is built (as part of 'guix system reconfigure ...') it may generate some shepherd services and add them to the list of shepherd services for the system.
<chrislck>instead of remove, use filter
<reepca>shepherd services have a field, AUTO-START?, which controls whether shepherd will automatically try to start them when it starts up.
<reepca>for further reading, let me refer you to the relevant parts of the guix and shepherd manuals: "info guix 'Service Types and Services'" and "info shepherd 'Jump Start'"
<reepca>most shepherd services generated by guix where it makes sense already have AUTO-START? set to #t (true), and it's the default if it's not specified.
<reepca>for example, slim will be automatically started when your system boots up
<raghavgururajan>Hello Guix!
<raghavgururajan>Can anyone able to help me with this please?
<reepca>raghavgururajan: at a glance, I'd note that this file ( gives a lot of information about dependencies and how to build it. I'd recommend starting by writing down a list of dependencies.
<reepca>the qtbase package has qmake, libraries, and development headers
<reepca>and we have zlib and quazip in (gnu packages compression)
<raghavgururajan>reepca Thanks for suggestion. i appreciate it. The reason I asked for help was because I neither have time nor energy to do it at the moment. :/
<zaab>If I want to develop a C program is "guix environment gcc-toolchain" a reasonable way to get a compiler?
<reepca>zaab: aye
<reepca>er wait no
<reepca>you want guix environment --ad-hoc gcc-toolchain
<reepca>the other one would give you an environment for building gcc-toolchain
<zaab>reepca: ah so --ad-hoc leaves me in an environment as if it had been installed, whereas no flag gives me the build tools as well?
<reepca>zaab: the main argument of 'guix environment' names the package you want /to be able to build/. To accomodate this, 'guix environment' will create an environment with all the dependencies of that package. Anything past --ad-hoc is just a list of packages you happen to want to have in the environment as well.
<zaab>reepca: thank you :-)
<reepca>so if you want to develop a generic C program, "guix environment --ad-hoc gcc-toolchain" is the way to go. If you want to hack on a specific C program that's been packaged for guix, "guix environment <some-program>" is the way to go.
<reepca>raghavgururajan: for complicated reasons I can't test this definition myself, but here's what I've thrown together:
<zaab>I am trying to make a symlink in my system definition. This is what I got: "(extra-special-file "/home/zaab/.guix-profile/bin/vim" (file-append neovim "/bin/nvim"))". This fails because I try to make it in a read-only file system.
<zaab>I don't really care where vim is placed as long as it is on $PATH. Any suggestions?
<reepca>ah, yes, that'd be because /home/zaab/.guix-profile itself is a symlink to in the store, which is indeed read-only. The only places $PATH is set to by default are /run/current-system/profile/{s}bin and the bin directories of the profiles the user has (usually just the profile 'guix pull' creates and ~/.guix-profile). You could make a package that just produces the desired symlink in a bin subdirectory of its output, then include that in
<reepca>the system-wide packages.
<reepca>although in that case if vim is installed in a per-user profile, it'll be found before the system's symlink is
<reepca>alternatively you could augment your PATH in one of your bash dotfiles to include a place that isn't a guix profile and then your extra-special-file could put the symlink there
<ng0>I think I'll drop updating gnurl for now, apparently 4 GB RAM and 2 virtual CPUs is not enough anymore/again to build guix from master. Or should I try again and giving it 10 CPUs and 20GB RAM?
<reepca>or you could make a vim-symlink package and install it for your user ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<ng0>zaab: ln -s ~/.guix-profile/bin/nvim ~/bin/vim ?
<reepca>ng0: ~/.guix-profile is read-only, as it's a symlink to a profile in the store
<reepca>er wait
<ng0>you got ln wrong
<reepca>agh, I always get the arguments to symlink backwards
<ng0>I'??m not using guix at the moment, but that's how I've always handled things which weren't aliases
<ng0>like my "mailget" script, builds in its src/util/ and gets symlinked into ~/bin/, and ~/bin should be in the PATH. if isn't, it's easy to fix.
<abralek>Does anyone have a snippet how to define a plugin-configuration for dovecot?
<zaab>guess I can just add /bin to path
<abralek>It should expand into something like plugin { fts = lucene }
<ng0>hm, a bit offtopic. does anyone know if Nijmegen and Arnhem Centraal trainstations provide ways to buy tickets with cash at a ticket machine? or do you have to register in advance for a card?
<ng0>I know we had some people circling that region :)
<alloy>Hi! Is there a way to import multiple (gnu packages ...) modules at once? So that the gnu packages part can be ommited. Thanks!
<abralek>alloy: take a look at (use-package-modules ...) it is defined in gnu module
<Minall>Hello guix!
<Minall>quiliro: Kiel vi fartas!
<Minall>I made a generation with the newest kernel, and it froze on xorg so, I want to delete the generation... Using 'guix system list-generations' says that I'm on the latest generation (the one that doesn't work), even thought I entered with the first generation, one that works...
<Minall>What should I do?
<Minall>How should I add new fonts to guix?
<alloy>abralek: Thanks alot!
<rekado_>Minall: do you mean how to *package* fonts for Guix? Or how to install fonts provided by Guix?
<rekado_>for packaging I suggest looking at any of the “font-*” packages that already exist.
<Minall>rekado_: I mean, install a font I have lol
<rekado_>does it have a Guix package?
<Minall>I have a .ttf font, and I dont know where to put it in order to use it
<Minall>Nope, it seems it doesn't
<rekado_>well, I put some fonts in ~/.fonts
<Minall>I discovered .guix-profile/share/fonts/truetype, but I can't write on it
<pen14641>Hi, has anyone else had a problem with numbers being invisible (they look like tabs) in IceCat? It doesn't happen when using Gnome, but when using XFCE or Enlightenment (desktop services) it does..
<Minall>Let my try rekado_ !
<rekado_>you would need to run fc-cache afterward.
<Minall>where does it say that, the manual doesn't have anything about manual font installation...}
<rekado_>pen14641: I haven’t seen this problem before, but there are other odd problems with fonts and IceCat.
<rekado_>Minall: it’s not Guix-specific. I think that’s just how this fontconfig stuff works everywhere.
<rekado_>it’s got a list of directories to search and a cache so that it doesn’t need to go look for fonts every time.
<Minall>Oh! thanks rekado_ ! it seems that now fc-list sees my font!
<Minall>Regarding my latest problem... I made a new reconfigure session that doesn't work, so I entered my oldest one that works
<pen14641>rekado_: Ah ok, thanks.. Do you know if there are known fixes for some of the problems? I haven't been able to find anything online
<Minall>But using 'guix system list-generations ' says I'm on the latest one, and I'm on the oldest one that works
<rekado_>pen14641: the search isn’t working too well but perhaps you can find something on
<rekado_>I’m not aware of any fixes, but I haven’t really followed the discussions about IceCat.
<pen14641>rekado_: Ok, it's giving me some problems, but I'll try, thanks!
<Minall>quiliro: Kiel vi fartas!
<rekado_>we expect the new build farm servers to arrive here on the 30th of August. Could take longer; that’s just the current estimate.
<Minall>What does these build farms could have?}
<jonsger1>rekado_: nice :)
<quiliro>Minall: those build farms build guix substitutes
<Minall>quiliro: Yes but, do they have more packages for example?
<Minall>quiliro: Kiel vi fartas!
<quiliro>Minall: mi fartas malbone....via tasko ne estas lista
<quiliro>Minall: no the do not have more packages
<pen14641>I found a bug report of from someone with the same IceCat font problems as me from June 23, but noone has commented on it. Is IceCat the only Firefox-based browser on Guix?
<pen14641>Does everyone just use text-based browsers? :P
<zaab>I'm getting a weird error. Is /homeless-shelter/ a guix thing?
<zaab>that is an absolute path
<rekado_>Minall: the servers are new and much faster.
<bavier>zaab: it's set as the value for the HOME env var inside the build container
<rekado_>zaab: it’s a Guix thing. During the build we set HOME to a non-existing directory.
<rekado_>pen14641: I’m using icecat and epiphany; I don’t have those problems.
<rekado_>pen14641: a difficulty appears to be in reproducing the problems.
<zaab>pen14641: I have the exact same problem with IceCat and numbers
<alloy>Is there any example on how to skip a phase of gnu-build-system? I'd like to skip the configure phase
<quiliro>pen14641: zaab ...what is that problem?
<rekado_>alloy: search for modify-phases
<rekado_>there are many examples in gnu/packages where we (delete 'configure)
<alloy>rekado_: Thanks for the tip!
<rekado_>so… the LDAP auth problem from the point of view of SSHD is that it tries to find the libnss_ldap plugin in the glibc output.
<quiliro>pen14641: would you please tell me what i have to do to have your same problem?
<rekado_>SSHD seems to try to open it directly
<rekado_>only NSCD’s LD_LIBRARY_PATH has been augmented so SSHD doesn’t look anywhere else.
<pen14641>rekado_: okay!
<jonsger1>pen14641: there is also ungoogled-chromium browser...
<pen14641>quiliro: Someone reported the same problem here . It happens to me, when I run IceCat in XFCE (or enlightenment or emacs-exwm). I have only tried it in a VM. I will try outside the VM now
<pen14641>jonsger1: Ah okay, maybe I'll have to use that for some time then..
<pen14641>quiliro: Woops forgot to say, I don't have the problem in Gnome
<quiliro>pen14641 left
<zaab>this is wikipedia frontpage. On most sites it is even more unusable
<quiliro>i cannot see that image...perhaps searxes is blocking third party websites
<zaab>bavier, rekado_, what is the solution when a build expects to be able to make a folder in my home?
<zaab>I do not care if it actually gets to, it is just a cache, but I dont want to build to fail
<zaab>quiliro: sorry. How would you prefer I share the image?
<bavier>zaab: usually to redefine HOME: (setenv "HOME" "/tmp")
<bavier>zaab: and include a comment saying why you're doing that
<pen14641>quiliro: I'm back. Sorry, did you write to me after I left? I have the same problem outside the VM. As long as the gnome service is activated/installed in my config, I don't have the problems, even when using XFCE
<iv-so>zaab: you can also patch the build script
<quiliro>zaab: would you please include those new findings on the mailing list?
<zaab>bavier: isnt setenv for runtime environments? this is for build time
<zaab>quiliro: which findings?
<bavier>zaab: the build's runtime ;)
<quiliro>zaab: the fact that it works only when gnome is installed and that it is the same problem on a real system apart from a virtual machine
<quiliro>s/apart\ from/as\ well\ as\ on/
<zaab>quiliro: I think you meant to address pen14641. You are free to include my screenshot
<rekado_>everything is better when adding passwd and group caches to nscd!
<rekado_>while sshd still doesn’t do the right thing, at least “id” and “su” work as expected.
<MaliRemorker>is there a simple way of changing the compilation options in a guix package -i one-liner?
<quiliro>zaab: i cannot include your screenshoot, i cannot see it
<MaliRemorker>also, not only options, but the compiler versions
<ngz>MaliRemorker: I don't think it is possible to change compilation options from the command line, but you might change the compiler version with `--with-input=gcc=gcc@8' or some such. Untested, though.
<jollyjester>hello does anyone know how i can get openvpn to work with resolv.conf
<MaliRemorker>it's about to get tested about now
<pen14641>zaab: I can write it in the mailing list.. But which one is it?
<Minall>Why is necessary to guix to name files using Hashes?
<pen14641>quiliro: Thanks
<jollyjester>i think there was some kind of openvpn-resolv package in the AUR of arch, is there something similar to it on guixsd? i'm just trying to get openvpn working with resolv.conf
<quiliro>Minall: guix hash
<quiliro>guix help hash
<quiliro>Minall: they are just to identify diffent compilations of programs
<quiliro>hashes are calculated and are unique... a file that has 1 bit different from another, has a different hash
<quiliro>Minall: so you can test if the file is the same as another by checking its hash
<Minall>Thanks for the aclaration quiliro !
<quiliro>glad to clarify :-)
<quiliro>Minall: ^
<quiliro>it will be of use for all...even for me if someone corrects me!
<quiliro>or if i forget
<quiliro>since there is a chat log
<Minall>Indeed!, lol
<jollyjester>ok so hol up does anyone here know anything about openvpn resolv.conf or not
<jollyjester>i'm a few steps away from installing nixos
<jollyjester>and i really don't want to dissapoint rms
<ngz>jollyjester: I cannot really help you, but did you read the manual about VPN services? It might give you your answer.
<jollyjester>ngz: i read it, it doesn't have any answers for me
<jollyjester>it's just a package that needs to be added to guix i think
<jollyjester>but, it NEEDS to be added since if it was in the repos i would've installed it already
<jollyjester>ngz: please look at this package
<jollyjester>it should give you more details about what i'm talking about
<jollyjester>i believe the package that needs to also be added is openresolv
<quiliro>is there a git server in guix?
<quiliro>installed git...but that is the client. or is it also the server?
<quiliro>info git
<quiliro>that was meant for bash
<ng0>quiliro: see git service and also cgit
<quiliro>ng0: ty
<Josh_Marshall>Hello all! Popping back in here after a while. Switched jobs! Anyways, I was wondering what was going on with the r-studio package. Here ( it appears to be present in some form, but I can't find it under the listed packages. Does somebody know its status?
<lfam>Josh_Marshall: I don't that file was ever submitted to Guix
<lfam>Josh_Marshall: I mean, I don't think
<raghavgururajan>reepca‎ Thank you :)
<alloy>Currently trying to build my first package definition! I just get a strange warning: expected keyword arg. What does it mean?
<nckx>alloy: Keyword arguments are #:these-things. Looks like you're missing one. We'll need more info (and your code) if you want more 🙂
<alloy>nckx: Thanks alot! That got me thinking about a parathese I had misplaced
<rekado_>sneek: later tell Josh_Marshall rstudio is provided by the guix-bimsb channel:
<alloy>Is there a way to set an environment variable for an entire build/test cycle of gnu-build-system? I need to set CC=gcc
<rekado_>alloy: you could add (arguments '(#:make-flags '("CC=gcc")))
<rekado_>alloy: or add a build phase that looks like this: (lambda _ (setenv "CC" "gcc") #t)
<rekado_>alloy: using make-flags would be preferable.
<alloy>Okay, thanks!
<quiliro> I found that a user can also run 'git daemon' from inside the git repository working directory in order to make it available remotely.
<quiliro>But i cannot access it as user...i know it is available on port 9418...but then how can i git clone remotely?
<ng0>provide access remotely via ssh reversetunnel, dyndns, tor, or anything similar
<str1ngs>quiliro: just do it over ssh or local file system
<str1ngs>quiliro: eg: git clone
<str1ngs>just keep in mind can't push to checkout branches. it would need to be a bare repo
<ngz>I cannot find any reference to this license <> in "licenses.scm". Is it there under a different name?
<lfam>ngz: Did you try google any of the phrases?
<ngz>I qwant'ified it, and I got this link.
<Minall>Hello guix!
<Minall>quiliro: Kiel vi Fartas!
<lfam>ngz: If you google it you'll see it's a rearranged BSD 4-clause
<ngz>If only I allowed me to use Google... ;)
<raingloom>could someone help with this linker error? crt1.o and crti.o are missing but glibc seems to be on the include path. i'm trying to compile Idris 2 by doing the C codegen, compilation and linking steps separately and it worked on Arch but not on Guix SD
<lfam>Well you offloaded the use of google on to the rest of us...
<ngz>Thank you.
<raingloom>(it looks like it found everything else, like gmp, idris_rts, etc)
<ngz>lfam: That's an unfair claim, btw. I didn't know the solution was to use Google. And asking a question does not imply offloading work on to others, or so I think.
<ng0>yeah basically everything which includes 1.,2.,3.,4. or any number of that + its first lines starting with "All Rights Reserved" is an indicator for BSD-*. When the licenses were drafted "All Rights Reserved" was what lawyers considered to be necessary. Today you find this nowhere else
<ng0>you basically can fetch a repository with license texts and compare them. and there's an odd chance that a license-checker will catch it too
<ng0>it's not that obvious tbh and only gets obvious through practice / reading
<lfam>Sorry, ngz. I was way too harsh
<lfam>ngz: I stopped using google for a year or so but I realized that people around me were often googling things on my behalf. My personal decision was that some loss of privacy is worth it for what google search gives to me, and not using it was causing me to start falling behind socially and professionally
<lfam>I tried really hard with alternatives to search and maps and came up short
<ngz>Well, that's a pretty sad story: way too much implications behind the choice of a search engine.
<lfam>It's so good because it learns from all the users. So you get some collective knowledge
<raingloom>soo, anyone knows why ld might not find something that is very clearly on its search path? :\
<str1ngs>raingloom: is this in a package? or from say console?
<raingloom>str1ngs a custom package that failed to build (which was expected) so I jumped into its build directory in /tmp, sourced the environment-variables file, and tried compiling it manually
<raingloom>clang output:
<raingloom>it tries to find crt1.o and crti.o and those are in /gnu/store/whatever-glibc-2.28/lib, which is definitely on the linker path, as the log shows. but just in case i added it with -L, but that didn't change a thing.
<str1ngs>-dynamic-linker /lib64/ this is definely wrong ang going to fail
<str1ngs>guix should set the dynamic-linker but I'm not sure how to do this when calling clang directly from within a build.
<str1ngs>unless that was used for testing only?
<raingloom>idk, i didn't add that
<raingloom>not sure what did though
<raingloom>but i think gnu-build-system patches ELF files to link properly? not sure tho
<rmk35>Is there any reason why when I run guix system reconfigure, the updating substitutes message gets printed so many times, all for the same host ''?