<opan>TRS-80: guix is not like the other distros, but that's also what allows it to be so good
<opan>It might take a bit of time and effort to figure some stuff out, but I think it's worth it.
<opan>re: my square box issues, I've just rolled back a couple generations for now in my user profile
<TRS-80>opan: yes the features sound very cool, but this configuration... and I was just trying to install a browser, not a whole environment... I stumbled across Guix totally by accident... and now hours, on top of more hours earlier trying to install something else from source that didn't work either... so all day now and still nothing to show for it... I'm just very frustrated right now
<TRS-80>OriansJ: I cannot figure out how, still slogging through all the Installation and configuration steps
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<TRS-80>oh wait I think it's doing something... maybe...
<TRS-80>guix package: error: build failed: substituter `substitute' died unexpectedly
<TRS-80>guix pull: error: Git error: SSL error: received early EOF
<vagrantc>haven't gotten into manifests yet, though i hear they're the hot thing!
<TRS-80>so, if I am understanding this correctly, the reason my normal user is has to install all the same initial packages (fints, locale, etc.) all over again is because each user (including root?) have their own profiles?
<wednesday>Awesome, how long do ya think that'll take till I can update again? hah
<nckx>I don't know, since there are some things that give me pause: the file's modification date is 30-Jul-2018 (that's… old) and Blocks.txt calls itself Blocks-12.0.0.txt implying that *someone* is versioning it properly and then not bothering to provide versioned URLs.
<nckx>So I'll take a look and not just push within the minute.
<emacsen>civodul, to be safe we should reconstruct them from DNA
<OriansJ>emacsen: no one is who you think they are because the human mind is only capable of making cheap approximations of humans internally and thus who you think people are are just shadows of the true depth and complexity of the being with which you interact.
<OriansJ>Thus even if everyone was completely honest all the time; who people are will always be different than who you think they are. But we live in a word where lying is cheap and easy and we are on a medium where anyone can change their nick to anything they want
<OriansJ>So usernames are just the label we choose to give ourselves for a moment; hoping that the registered user doesn't opt to ghost us to get that label for themselves
<nckx>mikadoZero: Thanks for the bug report! Note that bugs are listed by subject line in the Web interface and elsewhere, so having a good subject line is important.
<mikadoZero>nckx: Sorry. Just switched to mu4e and realized my mistake just after sending.
<efraim_>I'm on my phone right now, but is there a good way to have a keyword in a build system to include or exclude an input? Or should I be looking at some of the package-with-whatever transformations to make it happen
<nckx>mikadoZero: No problem. I changed it. Enjoy mu4e!
<mikadoZero>nckx: I am just starting to use mu4e but I am already enjoying it.
<mikadoZero>nckx: How did you change it. Did you use administrator powers?
<nckx>mu4e's not perfect but I love it all the same.
<nckx>mikadoZero: Nope. In fact, I think any rando can muck with our bug tracker.
<nckx>retitle ##### New subject line → control at debbugs·gnu·org
<nckx>mikadoZero: Just small things. The UI freezes while sending mail (this is more of an emacs bug but still a regression from non-emacs clients), updating the message list can be racy/buggy sometimes (it shows the wrong folder first, then refreshes the right one), it can be a bit slow depending on your view settings (e.g. with include-related on, unreleased improvements have been made upstream), …
<nckx>‘smtpmail-queue-mail t’ is commented out in my .emacs with the note that ‘I once lost mail this way’. Hm. I'll give it another go.
<apteryx>I'm now managing my dotfiles using GNU Stow, and its great! Although, I'm wondering how to manage the secrets that are part of that such as my GPG/SSH keys. Is there a tool designed to help with managing secrets?
<apteryx>I could also just make two dotfiles repository, one public (which would be OK to publish), and one private.
<dustyweb>rekado_: civodul: did you see davexunit's "building guix deploy" email to the list?
<quiliro>is there a way to boot with the same usb 32 bit systems as well as 64 bit systems?
<efraim>I'm using rakudo-star for a list of perl6 modules so I can test my build system, turns out they bundle 51 libraries, I've only packaged 12 so far
<lafrenierejm>I cloned the guix repo to $GUIX_REPO and added a package.scm to gnu/packages. I would like to use that package from my /etc/config.scm, but doing so leaves me with an unbound variable error. How do I use the packages defined in $GUIX_REPO from my /etc/config.scm?
<nckx>lafrenierejm: cd $GUIX_REPO && guix environment guix [maybe some --ad-hoc packages] -- sh -c './configure --localstatedir=/var --sysconfdir=/etc && make -j`nproc` && ./pre-inst-env guix system reconfigure …' is an option.
<lafrenierejm>`guix environment guix` from a clone of the guix repository is giving me a backtrace in ice-9/boot-9.scm and the following error: "In procedure %resolve-varaible: error: license:lppl1.1+: unbound variable"
<nckx>quiliro: You'll want to use a command like terminal_output do get rid of the graphical cruft and see more kernel/error messages. However, I forget which output there is besides gfxterm.
<nckx>lafrenierejm: What do you mean by ‘from’? That error message should appear anywhere, even if you cd ~ instead, right?
<nckx>Neither did I, and I was 13 and had no Internet. :-p
<lafrenierejm>`./configure` from the root of a guix clone while inside a guix environment is failing with "error: Guile-Gcrypt could not be found; please install it." I'm assuming there's a package I should `--ad-hoc` install?
<quiliro>gives .... error: you need to lead the kernel first.